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RE: What is a SOAP Message

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:02:24 -0800
To: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>, "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>
Cc: <fielding@apache.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00cc01c2d38a$10c838e0$c10ba8c0@beasys.com>

While we're providing context, I now don't agree with the [2] quote any
more.  I have changed my position since then, which is better represented at
[6]

Cheers,
Dave

[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0069.html


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> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: Mark Baker
> Cc: dorchard@bea.com; fielding@apache.org; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: What is a SOAP Message
>
>
>
> Roy: there is indeed a moderately voluminous thread on this
> at [1], which
> was originally about the general nature of SOAP messages (may
> or may not
> be of interest to you....roughly it's whatever one node sends
> to another
> per the SOAP architecture.  My view is that it includes at
> minimum an XML
> "Envelope" but frequently other information such as destination URIs,
> etc.)  Where we started to get into REST issues is where
> David Orchard
> said at [2]:
>
> "Maybe a good word for the bag of bits that some are calling
> a message
> would be better served being called a representation?"
>
> Which led to the ongoing discussion of whether >all< such
> messages are
> best described with the word "representation".  I think that's the
> fundamental question on which Mark has asked for your reactions.
>
> If you're commenting, as Mark requested, I'd specifically be
> curious for
> your thoughs on my contribution at [3]. (BTW:   I also wrote
> some followup
> at  [4, 5] but those latter posts are somewhat less succinct.
>  That said,
> if you do read the post at [4] please note the clarification at [5].)
>
> Thank you!
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0005.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0023.html
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0023.html
> [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0084.html
> [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Feb/0092.html
>
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