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RE: Sun and independent developers

From: Paulo Gaspar <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:21:53 +0200
To: "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>, <xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com>, <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>, <decentralization@yahoogroups.com>, <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Cc: "Tim O'Reilly" <tim@oreilly.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJEEDDKIAA.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>
> I don't think so. The analogous case would be if either of these
> were called simply "Markup Language" or perhaps "ML". Both HTML
> and XML were invented after long experience with many different
> markup languages so no one presumed that they would be the only
> one or the last one.

Are you sure? SGML was there before, but how long was the
experience with - specifically - hypertext markup languages before
HTML popped up?

There were not so many Hypertext systems before HTML and I wonder
how many of them used a markup language.


> XML Schemas and XML-RPC, by contrast, were
> out the gate relatively early. It's not clear that their
> inventors gave serious thought to the idea that they might not be
> the only such language. If they had, then they might have picked
> less generic names.

LOL
Sure, the guy that started XML-RPC, Dave Winer, was just involved
on... lets see... SOAP. Just take a look at the names in the 1.1
version of the SOAP specification. There is one at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsoapsp/ht
ml/soapspec.asp

Try to get informed Elliotte.


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliotte Rusty Harold [mailto:elharo@metalab.unc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:31 PM
> To: paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de; xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com;
> soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com; decentralization@yahoogroups.com;
> xml-dev@lists.xml.org; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Cc: Tim O'Reilly
> Subject: RE: Sun and independent developers
>
>
> At 9:09 PM +0200 9/7/01, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>
> >Elliotte,
> >
> >
> >What you are saying also applies to XML, HTML and other "languages".
> >
> >
> >I mean, what can be more generic than XML (eXtensible Markup Language)?
> >Or more generic than HTML (HyperText Markup Language)?
> >
>
> I don't think so. The analogous case would be if either of these
> were called simply "Markup Language" or perhaps "ML". Both HTML
> and XML were invented after long experience with many different
> markup languages so no one presumed that they would be the only
> one or the last one. XML Schemas and XML-RPC, by contrast, were
> out the gate relatively early. It's not clear that their
> inventors gave serious thought to the idea that they might not be
> the only such language. If they had, then they might have picked
> less generic names.
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