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Re: Sun and independent developers

From: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:37:21 -0700
Message-ID: <0f5301c137e5$477ae780$33a1dc40@murphy>
To: <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>, <xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com>, <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>, <decentralization@yahoogroups.com>, <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>, "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
Cc: "Tim O'Reilly" <tim@oreilly.com>
Elliotte -- when XML-RPC came out there was nothing like it, and no concept
that anything would follow it that did the same thing. It's a mark of its
success that now everyone thinks it was so obvious.

Further, there's nothing that says that Sun *has* to dilute the name-- they
could choose to respect it -- or even support the developers that have built
on it. Java is a fully supported XML-RPC environment.

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
To: <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>; <xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com>;
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Cc: "Tim O'Reilly" <tim@oreilly.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Sun and independent developers


> At 9:09 PM +0200 9/7/01, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>
> >Elliotte,
> >
> >
> >What you are saying also applies to XML, HTML and other "languages".
> >
> >
> >I mean, what can be more generic than XML (eXtensible Markup Language)?
> >Or more generic than HTML (HyperText Markup Language)?
> >
>
> I don't think so. The analogous case would be if either of these were
called simply "Markup Language" or perhaps "ML". Both HTML and XML were
invented after long experience with many different markup languages so no
one presumed that they would be the only one or the last one. XML Schemas
and XML-RPC, by contrast, were out the gate relatively early. It's not clear
that their inventors gave serious thought to the idea that they might not be
the only such language. If they had, then they might have picked less
generic names.
> --
>
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