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Re: Sun and independent developers

From: Kurt Cagle <cagle@olywa.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:52:18 -0700
Message-ID: <013b01c137de$fca6ecf0$1c3436d0@tazy>
To: <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>, <xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com>, <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>, <decentralization@yahoogroups.com>, <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>, "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
Cc: "Tim O'Reilly" <tim@oreilly.com>
Actually, I think there's a pretty standard general usage.

XML RPC is a generic term that is used to describe any XML based remote
procedure call language, and could just as easily subsume SOAP, for
instance, as Dave Winer's usage.

XML-RPC, on the other hand, almost always seems to specifically refer to the
initial RadioLand XML based RPC spec. Granted, he didn't attempt to
trademark the term (difficult since XML is already trademarked by the W3C),
but at the same time he probably does have some legitimate claim to having
been one of the first *popularizers* of using XML for an RPC (for what its
worth, I wrote about XML based RPCs back in 1997, but am not ABOUT to wade
into this debate beyond that).

-- Kurt Cagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
To: <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de>; <xml-rpc@yahoogroups.com>;
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Cc: "Tim O'Reilly" <tim@oreilly.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Sun and independent developers

> At 9:09 PM +0200 9/7/01, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> >Elliotte,
> >
> >
> >What you are saying also applies to XML, HTML and other "languages".
> >
> >
> >I mean, what can be more generic than XML (eXtensible Markup Language)?
> >Or more generic than HTML (HyperText Markup Language)?
> >
> I don't think so. The analogous case would be if either of these were
called simply "Markup Language" or perhaps "ML". Both HTML and XML were
invented after long experience with many different markup languages so no
one presumed that they would be the only one or the last one. XML Schemas
and XML-RPC, by contrast, were out the gate relatively early. It's not clear
that their inventors gave serious thought to the idea that they might not be
the only such language. If they had, then they might have picked less
generic names.
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