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Agenda,6 May 2004 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 13:36:46 -0700
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004May/0002.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
      Jeff Mischkinsky, Asir Vedamuthu, Glen Daniels, 
      Roberto Chinnici, Amy Lewis, Erik Ackerman, Adi Sakala, 
      Arthur Ryman

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - April 22th [.1]
  - April 29th [.2]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/att-0085/22-ws-d
esc-irc.html
[.2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/att-0088/040429-
ws-desc-irc.htm
  
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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
DONE [.2] 2004-01-08: Pauld to write up examples of schemas for the
                      Primer.
?         2004-01-28: Philippe and JMarsh will look at the ipr for 
                      test suite.
?         2004-02-12: DaveO to produce a refined proposal for Asynch 
                      HTTP binding addressing the concerns of folks 
                      that object to leaving replyTo info out of WSDL.
?         2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
?         2004-04-29: Arthur to write up concerns about XML 1.1 
                      implications on WSDL 2.0 for potential 
                      forwarding to XML WG.
DONE [.3] 2004-04-29: Hugo to redraft DaveO's proposal for extensible
HTTP
                      operations.
DONE [.4] 2004-04-29: Marsh to add an issue on describing the XML
version 
                      of SOAP messages.
?         2004-04-29: Umit to work with Anish to create a working draft
on 
                      media types ready for our May F2F meeting in 
                      NYC.
?         2004-04-29: Part 1 editors to adopt Jacek's "purpose of the 
                      binding" text, without "interchangeable"
endpoints,
                      and using "confidentiality" (or similar) instead 
                      of TLS.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004May/0007.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0093.html
[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x171

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Upcoming FTFs
     - May 19, 9:00 AM - 5:30 PM
       May 20, 8:00 AM - 12:00 PM
               1:30 PM - 3:30 PM testing task force meeting?
       May 21, 8:00 AM - 4:00 PM
       Hosted by IBM in NYC [.1], registration open [.2]
     - August 2-4 (London)
       Logistics [.3], registration [.4].
     - September 14-16 (Toronto) [.5]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/04-05-f2f.htm
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34041/WSD0405/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/04-08-f2f.htm
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Mar/0064.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004May/0000.html

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5.  Task Force Status.
 a. Media type description
  - Draft of first WD for WG approval by May FTF.
 b. QA & Testing
  - Suggested QA plan [.1]
  - More details from Arthur [.2]
 c. Schema versioning
  - Waiting to hear back from Schema on my draft "charter."
  - Henry's validate-twice write-up [.3]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/att-0029/QA_Oper
ational_Checklist.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0037.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0019.html

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6.  New Issues.  Issues list [.1].
  - Issue 172: Syntax improvement for soap fault bindings (Sanjiva) [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0081.html

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7.  Issue 54: Allow binding to any HTTP method [.1]
  - Hugo's original proposal [.2]
  - DaveO's original proposal [.3]
  - Hugo's combined proposal [.4]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x54
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0042.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0055.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0093.html

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8.  HTTP Features review.
  - David's analysis [.1]. Summary:
    - Request-Method                       already described
    - Request-URI                          already described
    - HTTP Version                         probably useful
    - Response Status                      probably useful 
    - Content coding                       probably useful
    - Transfer Codings (Chunked encoding)  probably useful
    - Persistent connections               probably not useful
    - Redirection                          probably useful
    - Authentication                       probably useful
    - SSL                                  probably useful
    - From                                 probably not useful
    - Caching (Vary, etc.)                 probably useful
    - Content Negotiation                  probably useful 
    - Host                                 already described
    - Content-Range                        not useful
    - If-*                                 not useful
    - Max-Forwards                         not useful
    - Expect                               not useful
    - Upgrade                              not useful
    - Via                                  not useful
    - Warning                              not useful
    - Allow                                probably not useful
    - Content-Language                     not useful
    - Content-Location                     not useful
    - Content-MD5                          not useful
    - Date                                 not useful
    - Etag                                 not useful
    - Expires                              not useful
    - Last-Modified                        not useful
    - Referrer                             not useful
    - Retry-After                          not useful
    - Server, User-Agent                   probably not useful
    - Partial Content                      not useful
    - Content-disposition                  probably not useful
    - PICS, P3P                            not useful
    - SoapAction                           already described
    - Cookies                              probably useful
    - WebDAV                               probably not useful
    - Delta Encoding                       ?

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0083.html

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9.  SOAP 1.2 Binding
  - Review Jean-Jacques' schema [.1, .2] outlining an overall approach
    to the binding.
  - Issue 172: Simplify code/subcode syntax [.3]
    - Sanjiva's proposal [.4]
    - Roberto's amendment [.5]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0295.html
[.2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-bindings.
html#_soap_binding_syntax
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x172
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0081.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004May/0001.html

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HTTP Features - Scheduled for future telcons, dependent on overall
                review of HTTP features.
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10. Issue 165: Adding HTTPS support [.1]
  - Still debating whether to put a specific marker in the binding 
    re: https (probably delay this; group with other HTTP features.)

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x165

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13. Issue 147: HTTP binding uses static content-type header [.1]
  - "... we can today describe operations using messages 
    consisting in XHTML or SVG documents. Using the HTTP binding, 
    these messages will have the "application/xml" mime type 
    while it would be more appropriate to use more precise mime 
    types ("application/xhtml+xml" or "image/svg+xml" for
    instance). Therefore, it might be good to be able to set the 
    mime type to use for a given message, at least at the HTTP 
    binding level ..."

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x147

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14. Issue 55: Define binding to HTTP headers [.1]
  - Do we want such capability?

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x55

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15. Issue 56: Define means to specify an authentication requirement [.1]
  - attempt to clarify commentor's intent

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x56
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0033.html

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16. Issue 164: Support for HTTP chunking and other HTTP options [.1]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x164

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Scheduled for future telcons
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17. Effort to simplify our spec.
  - DavidB [.1] and Jonathan [.2] have provided some data points.
  - Arthur's suggestion [.3]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0162.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0006.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0028.html
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