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Re: Reducing complexity

From: Francis McCabe <fgm@fla.fujitsu.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:34:26 -0800
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
To: "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
Message-Id: <3EF35508-FD88-11D6-A7EA-000393A3327C@fla.fujitsu.com>

On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 11:23  AM, Champion, Mike wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:30 PM
>> To: David Orchard
>> Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Reducing complexity
>> That's wrong, but I think I understand why you believe it so.  Correct
>> me if I'm wrong, but it's because you don't believe that GET and POST
>> (and all HTTP methods and extension methods), are application methods,
>> the same as GetLastTradePrice.
>> Well, whether or not you believe it, they are application methods.
>> That's a *fact*.
> We might as well be arguing about the true nature of the Trinity, or 
> the
> true heirs of the Prophet, or [pick your favorite bloody religious 
> dispute].
> This is not about truth, it's about belief systems.  Let's PLEASE 
> stay away from the "HTTP is an application protocol not a transport
> protocol" issue.  Mark, if you want the TAG to slap WSA's wrists about 
> it,
> go for it!  [But wear your flamesuit when you do :-) ]
> My canonical plea from my side of the co-chair is that we need to 
> focus on
> what unites us, not what separates us.  URIs everywhere, and the web 
> method
> support in SOAP, and the goal of minimizing the disconnect between 
> "the web"
> and "web services" are RESTful things we can all live with.  Of 
> course, we
> can't ignore the trout flopping out of the ponds forever, and some 
> things
> like "what is the role of SOAP and WSDL in the canonical definition of 
> a web
> service" *are* on the table.  But intractable religious disputes are 
> not.
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