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Re: D-AG0014

From: Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:30:31 -0500
To: Public W/S Arch <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20020312213031.GH13129@jibboom.w3.org>
* Doug Bunting <db134722@iPlanet.com> [2002-03-07 18:14-0800]
> To get the ball rolling, let me start with the goal statement itself
>      serve as liaison with groups outside W3C who are working on
>      web 0services in order to achive interoperability and reduce
>      duplication of effort
> Please remember that, like all goals past D-AG0011, this goal refers to
> actions of the Working Group and not to our reference architecture.
> I could find no discussion on this goal except Mario Jeckle's agreement
> with Daniel Austin's original in an email entitled "Web Service
> Definition".  Sorry, I don't have the URL for that email in the archives
> right now.

D-AG0014 states that the Working Group must serve as a liaison for the
Web services world.

The Working Group must indeed do things in light of other people's
work, and this is actually why we have liaison with external groups
listed in our charter[1].

However, the goal of our Working Group is to write specifications. The
same way I expressed that I was worried about the overlap with the
role of the CG about D-AG0013, I think that the angle that D-AG0014
takes is too broad.

Moreover, interoperability is already in D-AG0001. I believe that what
this goal carries is that the Working Group should be aware of the
work that is done outside.

> A discussion point: Is this goal truly separate from D-AG0013
>      co-ordinate the development of web services within W3C,
>      together with other W3C Working Groups where there is overlap
>      among their problem domains
> ?  I would suggest coordination often requires liaison work.  The
> separation between how groups within W3C are coordinated and those 
> outside are liaison'd seems artificial though we might have very
> different levels of "control" in each case.  Could we align the wording
> of these two goals or (preferable) craft something general with D-AG0013
> and D-AG0014 as sub-points?

I agree that in the end, D-AG0013 and D-AG0014 are fairly similar.

What about merging them as (using my wording[2], amended by David
Orchard[3], and augmented with a mention of other groups):

   co-ordinate with other W3C Working Groups, the Technical
   Architecture Groups and other groups doing Web services related
   work in order to maintain a coherent architecture for Web services.

I think that it captures:
- our commitment to have a coherent architecture.
- our co-ordination within W3C (TAG, other Working Groups).
- our liaisons with external groups.



  1. http://www.w3.org/2002/01/ws-arch-charter#external
  2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Mar/0153.html
  3. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Mar/0155.html
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