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Re: [css4-background][css4-text] @pattern rule

From: Dirk Schulze <dschulze@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:11:11 -0700
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
CC: Sebastian Zartner <sebastianzartner@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D77C2C06-B5B4-4063-8869-5967B79CA48A@adobe.com>

On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Sebastian Zartner <sebastianzartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> In a previous mail[1] I already exposed the idea of having an @pattern rule for defining arbitrary filling patterns as you can see them in many graphics processing tools. I was asked to split that discussion from the rule for defining arbitrary text decorations. So here it is again plus some additional information and ideas about what I have in mind.
> 
> Syntax:
> @pattern IDENT {
>   form: <form> [ , <form> ]*;
>   amount: random | <number> | <percentage>;
>   distribution: [ random | even ] [ linear | area ];
>   size-variation: <percentage>{1, 2};
>   rotate: <angle>;
>   rotation-variation: <percentage>;
> }
> 
> where
> <form> = <url> || line || dot || circle || square || triangle || wavy || zigzag || chess || brick
> 
> IDENT is the name of the pattern.
> 'form' allows specifying an image url and offers several predefined forms, which are related to the line decorations as well as patterns in illustration programs.
> 'amount' can be a random number of duplicates, a precise number or a percentage (relative to the size of the element it is applied to).
> 'distribution' describes the positioning of the duplicates, which can be randomly or evenly spreaded in one or two dimensions.
> 'size-variation' defines the percentual alternation of the width and height of the duplicates.
> 'rotate' rotates the duplicates to a specific angle.
> 'rotation-variation' means the percentual alternation of the rotation of the duplicates.
> 
> Usage examples:
> background-image: stars;
> text-fill: stripes; (Just made that property up, but it represents text filling.)
> 
> Examples:
> All this should be possible with the rule:
> <Patterns.png>
> Not covered by this draft:
> - exact positioning of individual forms
> - colors (text-decoration-color may be enough for this but will need to be extended to allow keeping the original form color and allow color variations)
> - mirroring of patterns
> - procedural patterns (wood, marble, noise, etc.)
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Sep/0462.html
> 
> I think that this should first be pursued in the SVG group - we're already looking into some forms of procedural generation there.  Some of your examples, for example, fall into the "cross-hatch fill" idea we decided to work on at our last F2F, while others are simply existing <pattern> elements.
> 
It still sounds very interesting. My only concern is that it should be in CSS Images, not CSS background. This way it can be used in other properties and spec as well. We need to verify how compatible it is with SVG pattern as well IMO.

Greetings,
Dirk

> I'm of the opinion that we should pursue tighter integration between SVG and CSS, so it's easier to use some of SVG's more advanced image-generation stuff directly in CSS, but I'm not sure how it would work right now.
> 
> ~TJ
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