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Re: XHTML doctype and namespace lookups overwhelm w3.org servers?

From: Gannon J. Dick <gdick@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:56:38 -0600
Message-ID: <001501c2c575$09ef7a10$01e54004@home2>
To: <www-html@w3.org>

Different problem with the XHTML 1.1 DTD vis-a-vis IE ...
The problem occurs in ANY modularized DTD with <![IGNORE[ foo]> directives
... if the file to be ignored does not exist then the MS parser throws a
"resource not found" type error and stops.  If this sounds like Catch-22 you
are right.

If you make a local copy of the XHTML 1.1 DTD and take out the pesky IGNORE
directives (they are for extensibility reasons anyway)
all will be well.  If you use the W3C copies, you will continue to have the
problem.  Unless the W3C is willing to put empty modules
on their servers.

Gannon J. Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Jessey" <simon@jessey.net>
To: <www-html@w3.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: XHTML doctype and namespace lookups overwhelm w3.org servers?


>
> I have been getting a similar problem with XHTML 1.1. When "previewing" a
> document in an authoring client I was getting a similar error message
> (although without a delay). The big difference between my situation and
> yours is that the file was saved with an .html extension. When viewing the
> file with the browser in the usual way, it seemed to cope with it without
> problems. In the end, I decided to remove the XML declaration at the
> beginning of the document and put the character encoding declaration in a
> META element instead.
>
> Interestingly, I only put the XML declaration in the document to get
around
> an IE highlighting bug with absolutely-positioned elements. When I removed
> the declaration, I was forced to redesign my style sheet to avoid absolute
> positioning where possible.
>
> I am sorry I cannot shed more light on your problem.
>
> Simon Jessey
>
> w: http://jessey.net/blog/
> e: simon@jessey.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Webmaster, Musikcafeen" <ehofmeister@musikcafeen.dk>
> To: <www-html@w3.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: XHTML doctype and namespace lookups overwhelm w3.org servers?
>
>
> >
> > I recently bought "Beginning XHTML" co-authored by Dave Raggett, and I
was
> > rather puzzled by an example (chapter 3, p. 48 "A Simple XHTML
document")
> > where the DTD is downloaded, before the document is parsed, as far as I
> can
> > see. It raised the same questions as Jeff Mendenhall came up with. What
> > happens is this:
> >
> > I write the code in the aforementioned example:
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > <!DOCTYPE html
> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
> >   <head>
> >     <title>First XHTML document</title>
> >   </head>
> >   <body>
> >     <p>This is my first XHTML document.</p>
> >   </body>
> > </html>
> >
> > I save it as examp2.htm and examp2.xml respectively.
> >
> > - When I open examp2.htm in IE 6.0SP1 it displays as it should,
according
> to
> > the book.
> > - When I open examp2.xml in IE 6.0SP1 it tries to open the document for
> > about 10-15 seconds, then comes up with an error message that says "The
> > XML-page cannot be displayed - the resource could not be found:
> > 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd'." (the actual
> > messages are a bit different, as I am using the danish version of IE
6.0,
> > but I am loosely translating).
> >
> > What is important is that I am logged OFF my LAN-connection to the
> internet
> > when I get the above results. When I log ON and try the same, IE
responds
> > immediately by showing me the parse tree, however it also shows me the
> > document header, which it shouldn't according to the book.
>
Received on Sunday, 26 January 2003 14:56:55 GMT

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