Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusion of frames (fwd)

MegaZone (
Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT)

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: MegaZone <>
Subject: Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusion of frames (fwd)

Once upon a time Arnoud "Galactus" Engelfriet shaped the electrons to say...
>The problem here is that "reality" mostly means "Whatever Netscape
>comes up with", as far as new HTML extensions are concerned. Given
>their history of strange extensions, that's not really a good way
>to work on a new standard.

OBJECT is NS?  CSS support is NS?  Navigation hotkeys is NS?
Internationalization is NS?  The full tables support is NS?


I think people really need to stop beating up NS and MS just because it
is easy, and step back and take a better look at HTML 4.0.

Somethings come from vendors - which is a good thing IMHO.  Take a look
at the IETF RFCs.  A great many of them come from vendor inventions which
were taken to the IETF to be ratified as a standard for all to use.  I'm
not talking about Informational RFCs either - I'm talking full Standards.
Just because something was invented by a vendor doesn't mean it is a bad
idea, nor does it mean it is a good idea.  

I don't see SPACER, MULTICOL, or LAYER in HTML 4.0 - and I hope that they
do NOT show up.  SPACER and LAYER can be done with CSS and CSS Positioning.
MULTICOL I'll admit is nice, but hopefully some for of style markup will be
available to reproduce it - it is presentational.

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