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History 101

From: Gerald Bauer <luxorxul@yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:28:02 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <20030414182802.62325.qmail@web40807.mail.yahoo.com>
To: www-forms@w3.org

> You may innovate as much as you like, but then just
> don't call it W3C XForms.

  Fair enough. How about XForms 2.0 or XForms NG?
After all 1.0 versions never really catch on, do they?
 
> You should, for instance, download X-Smiles 0.71
> and take a close look at the XForms examples:
> http://www.x-smiles.org/download.html.
> There is already significant XForms content out
> there.

  Well, I wouldn't call a single academic research
prototype site significant content. Please, also
remember that academics hardly ever rock the boat
(that is, challenge your XForms spec).

> You clearly didn't understand the spec. That's ok.
> The spec is the result of an endless array of review
> cycles, and targetted towards implementers.

  See that's my point. Specs rarely work if the leads
don't "eat their own dogfood", that is, build a
working prototype themselves.

  Take Tim Berners-Lee, the founding-fahter of the
Web, as an example. He built its own HTML browser. But
so far I haven't seen anything like an "official" W3C
XForms prototype from any of the spec leads? 

  You might wonna read up on the history of HTML and
look into Tim Berners-Lee book titled: "Weaving the
Web: The Original Design and Ultimate Destiny of the
World Wide Web"

> The spec
> itself may be too complex for you, but XForms 1.0,
> the language and architecture, is not complex.  

  See, you lost touch with reality in "endless review
cycles". You need to get out some XForms
browsers/engines and than listen to users as the
struggle with XForms. It will open your eyes.

> So far, you did not inspire us.

  Well, don't worry I won't run away and I will lead
by example.

> You have been inspired
> by XForms 1.0, which is part of our job, as we are
> in charge for the Web and are on a mission to lead 
> the Web to its full
> potential, whereby inspiring others is an important
> aspect.

  Well, I would say its a two way street and also
having a single committee in charge of the Web is
worrysome as it likely will lead to something like the
Academie Francaise who is in charge of the French
language so that it can reach its full potential.

  As a case study you might wonna read up on the
evolution of the English language. A good start is
Bill Bryson's book entitled "The Mother Tongue:
English And How It Got That Way".
 
  - Gerald

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