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Re: suggest deprecating alertdialog role in ARIA 1.1

From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:14:37 +0900
Message-ID: <CA+epNseyWngJNzR5qDM5K8RX13O9A246R3YzmXRVZJ+uHsembw@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, Marco Zehe <marco.zehe@googlemail.com>, James Teh <jamie@nvaccess.org>
Hi, Stefan. What is the difference from user perspective? Currently
both dialog and alertdialog have identical mapping to AT APIs in
Firefox and I don't have an idea what can be changed that helps the AT
developers. Error/warning/info types seems to be a syntax sugar for
the web page author but it can be simply accomplished by appending
this type to accessible name, for example, via aria-label.

Thank you.
Alex.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Schnabel, Stefan
<stefan.schnabel@sap.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It is not the fault of the ARIA spec that alertdialog is poorly supported in AT.
>
> Role "alertdialog" has been invented to indicate simple ok/yes/no/cancel messageboxes in contrast to more
> elaborated complex dialogs with role "dialog".
>
> Therefore, I recommend *NOT* to remove the role entirely, in contrary, it should even be extended to reflect the
> *type* of "alert" dialog Error/Warning/Info etc. and its usage according to this should be reflected in the AP Guidelines documentation.
>
> Such a pattern would help to get more "typed" behavior, and that is what the ARIA spec stands for and what users need.
>
> - Stefan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshue O Connor [mailto:joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie]
> Sent: Freitag, 7. September 2012 09:22
> To: Steve Faulkner
> Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH; Richard Schwerdtfeger; Marco Zehe; James Teh
> Subject: Re: suggest deprecating alertdialog role in ARIA 1.1
>
> Steve Faulkner wrote:
>>> From a discussion ensuing after I filed a bug against Firefox [1], it
>> appears that the alertdialog role is not differentiated from
>> role=dialog  by AT, and not interoperably implemented in a meaningful
>> sense. If this is the case I would suggest it be removed from ARIA as
>> it does not appear to be useful.
>
> FWIW, it may be better to have one role for a dialog, whether its
> role="dialog" or a role="alertdialog" - the former being a better
> generic form. So +1
>
> Cheers
>
> Josh
>
>
>
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