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RE: Should validity be P1 or P2? (was RE: summary of resolutions from last 2 days)

From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:03:55 -0500
Message-ID: <6EED8F7006A883459D4818686BCE3B3B01248655@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu>
To: "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "WAI-GL" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

Joe Clark wrote:

<blockquote>
Nobody has provided even the standard three 
*real-world* examples that I repeatedly call for and never get.
</blockquote>



Here is a very small example in which valid code doesn't guarantee
accessibility. The following table validates for HTML 4.01 transitional.
JAWS 5.0 and 6.10 do not recognize it as a table. Home Page Reader 3.04
handles it properly.

This is clearly a user agent issue (JAWS should be able to recognize
this table in its sleep). I mention it because tables have been
identified as cases where valid code is essential.

<code>
<table>
    <thead>
        <tr>
            <th colspan="4" scope="col">Building Accessible Web Sites
        </tr>
    </thead>
    <tbody>
        <tr>
            <td>HTML</td>
            <td>PDF</td>
            <td>MS Word</td>
            <td>DAISY</td>
        </tr>
    </tbody>
</table>
</code>


"Good design is accessible design." 
John Slatin, Ph.D.
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Matt May wrote:

> You've completely missed the other half of the problem, which is that 
> we
> can find many examples of valid pages that are plenty inaccessible.

That is an unsupported claim. Nobody has provided even the standard
three 
*real-world* examples that I repeatedly call for and never get.

-- 

     Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org
     Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/>
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