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STOP - Re: AccessiBlog updated

From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:34:50 -0400
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To: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>, Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Cc: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
Enough.  This is not a constructive thread.
No more replies.
No more cross-posting to IG.


At 07:29 PM 9/24/01 , Anne Pemberton wrote:
>Ah, Kynn and Chaas, the Peacemakers! And Chas made some interesting 
>points. I will be curious to know when Lisa's and Jonathan's stuff will be 
>Kynn, teachers are not usually overly fond of class clowns. They waste a 
>lot of class time, and often keep a teacher from meeting everyone's needs. 
>And, to be perfectly honest, what I enjoy most about teaching elementary 
>children (other than their openness to all learning) is that they 
>generally are still free of 'tudes .... 'Tudes are tolerable, but they 
>waste a lot of time.
> From Joe's use of Blog to describe both his list of resources and his 
> in-process book, I suspect Blog is an index to his work with a few other 
> pieces thrown in to round out what he hasn't written yet ...  Joe?
>I do think Joe understood that when I said his site wasn't useful, I meant 
>it wasn't useful to me because it wasn't a source of information I'd be 
>referring folks to.
>         Oh, Kynn, did you look at that picture of Joe on his page? He's a 
> bottle blonde for sure! <grin>
>                                         Anne
>At 08:42 AM 9/24/01 -0700, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
>>See, the whole problem here is that you took Joe Clark's tongue-in-
>>cheek boasting seriously.  If you take Joe a lot less seriously --
>>think of him as the class clown out to get attention, who still
>>manages to produce useful stuff -- then you don't have these problems.
>>You read claims like "I know the most in the world about accessibility"
>>or "nobody else is as great as me" or "this is the most complete
>>site" or "they all got it wrong, I'm the only one who knows the
>>score" as just part of the classic Joe Clark 'tude.  Just shrug and
>>say "oh that wacky Joe, let's go see what he's really got for us"
>>and ignore the rest of it.
>>Because Joe really _does_ produce some great and useful stuff, and
>>it's even more useful if you learn to employ appropriate mental
>>(Note:  You can probably do this with many other people, and thereby
>>increase their usefulness also.  Me too, for example!  Although I am
>>too close to myself to be able to tell you what's the right filter.)
>>Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
>>Technical Developer Liaison
>>Reef North America
>>Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network
>Anne Pemberton

wendy a chisholm
world wide web consortium
web accessibility initiative
seattle, wa usa
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