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Re: alt title and links

From: seeman <seeman@netvision.net.il>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:30:12 -0700
Message-ID: <00a201c14528$f2feae70$8094003e@dev1>
To: "_W3C-WAI Web Content Access. Guidelines List" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
This, and the problem of loss of core functionality in
the windows environment when using accesskey in IE 5, are examples of the
same problem. - implementation bugs in the users agent/system .

I think we have to differentiate between :

a, backwards compatibility (e.g. some systems have not implemented CSS
(style sheets) - so make it useable with out) and,
 b,   miss-implementation - were a platform or system or software implements
something incorrectly and against its specification.

I vote that the former is something that is quantifiable and therefore
something that we can deal with.
But, to attempt to know, document and address each miss-implementation  of
specifications -  well, how long is a piece of string? - unless we only
address implementation quirks among market leaders (read that last bit a a
horrified voice).


----- Original Message -----
From: "gregory j. rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: alt title and links

> AG: So for the moment, _don't_ populate TITLE in A especially
> on text links if you care about the Jaws users in your audience
> GJR: hmm...  i couldn't disagree more - i care about Jaws users, since i
> one of them, but i use "title" and "alt" correctly (that is, according to
> specification) because this is an implementation bug that has been
> to Jaws' developers on numerous occasions.  when does developer
> responsibility become an issue?  rather than misuse markup, someone other
> than me needs to contact freedom scientific to ask them why one can't
> between "display hyperlink text", "display title", and "display alt" - not
> only in the list-of-links, but on-the-fly, as well. and, if the answer
> received from the company formerly known as henter-joyce is "we can't get
> the information from the IE-DOM", then the issue needs to be brought
> the microsoft reps in our midst.  and if it turns out that the information
> is readily available, then that (technically detailed) information needs
> be funneled back to AT developers.  it is that simple.
> so, if you "care about the jaws users in your audience" you will raise
> hell until jaws' implementation is improved/fixed, and NOT abuse/misuse
> markup. gregory.
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