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RE: <HR> (was Re: Fleet Boston's...) (fwd)

From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:58:33 -0500
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010308175833.007cbae0@pop.erols.com>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>, WAI GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Chaals,

	Since the last time this subject came up, I worked on the visuals for some
web pages for a blind woman.... her original text included a few <hr />'s
.... seems to me that if she can learn to insert them, some/many/most blind
folks can understand what they symbolize. All that is necessary is for the
screen readers to pick up the <hr /> command and translate it to "line",
"horizontal rule", or even simple <HR> ...

					Anne

At 10:12 AM 3/8/01 -0500, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>Interesting question on IG -
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2001JanMar/0772.html
>
>Do we have ready-made comments on this, or is it an issue we should try to
>resolve as a working group?
>
>Chaals
>
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>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:14:43 -0000
>From: Jon Hanna <jon@spinsol.com>
>To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: RE: <HR> (was Re: Fleet Boston's...)
>Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:14:30 -0500 (EST)
>Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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>> what does that mean: don't use <hr> for presentational purpose?
>> when and how are you allowed to use it?
>
><hr> has a semantic meaning - It means that what came before the rule
>was very different to what was after it, or a logically separate
>section of a long document, especially a numbered document.
>
>Putting it another way ...</p><hr /><p>... is far stronger a change
>in meaning than ...</p><hr /><p>...
>
>Really the quote: 'Do not use ... horizontal rule "HR" for
>presentation purposes.'
>
>should be 'Do not use any HTML tags for presentation purposes'. There
>were some HTML tags with presentation purposes, but thankfully
>they're being phased out.
>
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Anne Pemberton
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