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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:19:23 -0500
To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <B77D8123-F4B3-4E9D-AA79-9A31E4142C60@w3.org>
Cc: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, site-comments@w3.org, chairs@w3.org

On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:59 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:

> Thanks Ian.
>
> Can you please point me to a valid URL for the SVG 1.1 spec in the  
> meantime?

Sure.

A quick explanation of what is now available:

1) The TR page has new views. What appears on the TR page should be  
essentially the same. If we have
     bugs in our data (e.g., about which spec supersedes another)  
we'll fix those bugs.
     http://www.w3.org/TR/

    On the default view, look for "SVG" and there's a set of related  
specs, including SVG 1.1.

    BUG: http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-title-all.html is missing that one.  
I'll have a look.

2) [New] Related specs are grouped, so that someone who is interested  
in, say, "SVG" doesn't have to
     figure out what's what on the TR page. Here's the "current  
status" page for SVG:
     http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/svg

     The goal is to have a 1-sentence description of each spec, so  
that by reading that page, someone can
     get an understanding of how the specs fit together. We'll be  
adding those sentences over time, and
     getting the sentences will be part of the publications process.

     SVG 1.1 appears on that page.

3) [New] Full publication history of each document. The full history  
is linked from a number of places,
     including the TR page, the status page, and from the spec itself  
(for those that use the new templates).

     Select the date of a publication on the status page (or TR page)  
and you'll see its full publication history.
     For SVG 1.1:
     http://www.w3.org/standards/history/SVG11


     Note: We are missing a few history pages for recent publications;  
we'll be adding those over the next
     few days.

4) [New] There's a search box at the top of every redesigned page. My  
understanding is that 50% of users start by
     searching (or prefer search), so this should make it easier to  
find information.

Hope that helps.

  _ Ian

> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:
>>
>>> Um...
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?
>>>
>>> Please don't break the web! :)
>>
>>
>> Of course not. Obviously we are going to encounter a bunch of  
>> things that
>> need fixing
>> that happened during the deployment (despite careful preparation).
>>
>> These reports are very helpful and we will fix all the bugs as  
>> quickly as we
>> can.
>>
>>  _ Ian
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas
>>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The  
>>>>> RDF
>>>>> that we use
>>>>> is public:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Group data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
>>>> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re  
>>>> events,
>>>> specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful  
>>>> vocabularies
>>>> such
>>>> as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used ... :)
>>>>
>>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>>>>
>>>> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C  
>>>> standard. Over
>>>> the
>>>> past two years we have successfully convinced quite a number of  
>>>> players
>>>> (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out there that  
>>>> enabling RDFa
>>>> support is not only doable but straight-forward and worth it.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR  
>>>>> searches),
>>>>> and we are likely
>>>>> to do more.
>>>>
>>>> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and  
>>>> hence
>>>> eating
>>>> more of our own dogfood ;)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>     Michael
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>>>>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>>>>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
>>>>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think  
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>>>>>> #w3c site
>>>>>> doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The  
>>>>> RDF
>>>>> that we use
>>>>> is public:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Group data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR  
>>>>> searches),
>>>>> and we are likely
>>>>> to do more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>>>>>> API. Just
>>>>>> some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat  
>>>>>> our own
>>>>>> dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, etc.)  
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> this area
>>>>>> and should well be able to demonstrate that we are able to use  
>>>>>> them,
>>>>>> IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of  
>>>>>> semantic
>>>>>> technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the eCommerce  
>>>>>> domain
>>>>>> (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and Yahoo!  
>>>>>> processing
>>>>>> structured data, I can't seriously explain to my colleagues or  
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> W3C
>>>>>> customers why we don't have structured data (preferably in RDF)
>>>>>> available at
>>>>>> the new W3C site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>     Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>>>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will  
>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>> that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue to add
>>>>>>> content over time and invite your contributions (especially from
>>>>>>> Working Groups).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in  
>>>>>>> style
>>>>>>> sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>>>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>
>>
>

--
Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
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