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RE: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:10:35 +0000
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
CC: "site-comments@w3.org" <site-comments@w3.org>, "chairs@w3.org" <chairs@w3.org>
Message-ID: <8DEFC0D8B72E054E97DC307774FE4B9111A33A@DB3EX14MBXC315.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
And can you tell me how I navigate to the Timed Text area now.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: chairs-request@w3.org [mailto:chairs-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Schiller
Sent: 14 October 2009 3:59 PM
To: Ian Jacobs
Cc: Michael Hausenblas; site-comments@w3.org; chairs@w3.org
Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

Thanks Ian.

Can you please point me to a valid URL for the SVG 1.1 spec in the meantime?

Jeff

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:
>
>> Um...
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?
>>
>> Please don't break the web! :)
>
>
> Of course not. Obviously we are going to encounter a bunch of things 
> that need fixing that happened during the deployment (despite careful 
> preparation).
>
> These reports are very helpful and we will fix all the bugs as quickly 
> as we can.
>
>  _ Ian
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas 
>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The 
>>>> RDF that we use is public:
>>>>
>>>>  Group data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>
>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>
>>> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been 
>>> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re 
>>> events, specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful 
>>> vocabularies such as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used 
>>> ... :)
>>>
>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>>>
>>> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard. 
>>> Over the past two years we have successfully convinced quite a 
>>> number of players (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out 
>>> there that enabling RDFa support is not only doable but 
>>> straight-forward and worth it.
>>>
>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR 
>>>> searches), and we are likely to do more.
>>>
>>> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and hence 
>>> eating more of our own dogfood ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>     Michael
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute NUIG - National 
>>> University of Ireland, Galway Ireland, Europe Tel. +353 91 495730 
>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>>>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>>>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members 
>>>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think we 
>>>>> should also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>>>>>
>>>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new 
>>>>> #w3c site doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The 
>>>> RDF that we use is public:
>>>>
>>>>  Group data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>
>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>
>>>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>>>
>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>
>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR 
>>>> searches), and we are likely to do more.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL 
>>>>> API. Just some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>>>
>>>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our 
>>>>> own dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, 
>>>>> etc.) in this area and should well be able to demonstrate that we 
>>>>> are able to use them, IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of 
>>>>> semantic technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the 
>>>>> eCommerce domain (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and 
>>>>> Yahoo! processing structured data, I can't seriously explain to my 
>>>>> colleagues or other W3C customers why we don't have structured 
>>>>> data (preferably in RDF) available at the new W3C site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>     Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre DERI - Digital Enterprise 
>>>>> Research Institute NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway 
>>>>> Ireland, Europe Tel. +353 91 495730 http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ 
>>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will 
>>>>>> notice that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue 
>>>>>> to add content over time and invite your contributions 
>>>>>> (especially from Working Groups).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in 
>>>>>> style sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site- 
>>>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>
>
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