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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:25:58 -0500
To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Message-Id: <3B8B1FCD-8979-4DA1-81E6-4DCA154870FA@w3.org>
Cc: "site-comments@w3.org" <site-comments@w3.org>, "chairs@w3.org" <chairs@w3.org>

On 14 Oct 2009, at 10:10 AM, Sean Hayes wrote:

> And can you tell me how I navigate to the Timed Text area now.

Sure.

A general comment:

  1) There is a "gentle" path for those looking for broad topics.   
Timed text is linked from our
     section on Audio and Video:
     http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/audiovideo

  2) There is a "fast" path for those looking for something specific.  
On the TR page (default view)
      you'll see "Timed Text" as a category.
       http://www.w3.org/TR/

Other ways:

  1) 50% of people search. There's a search box on every page.

  2) There's a site index linked from the bottom of every page, and  
timed text appears there.

Ian

>
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chairs-request@w3.org [mailto:chairs-request@w3.org] On Behalf  
> Of Jeff Schiller
> Sent: 14 October 2009 3:59 PM
> To: Ian Jacobs
> Cc: Michael Hausenblas; site-comments@w3.org; chairs@w3.org
> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>
> Thanks Ian.
>
> Can you please point me to a valid URL for the SVG 1.1 spec in the  
> meantime?
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:
>>
>>> Um...
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?
>>>
>>> Please don't break the web! :)
>>
>>
>> Of course not. Obviously we are going to encounter a bunch of things
>> that need fixing that happened during the deployment (despite careful
>> preparation).
>>
>> These reports are very helpful and we will fix all the bugs as  
>> quickly
>> as we can.
>>
>>  _ Ian
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas
>>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The
>>>>> RDF that we use is public:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Group data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
>>>> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re
>>>> events, specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful
>>>> vocabularies such as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used
>>>> ... :)
>>>>
>>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>>>>
>>>> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard.
>>>> Over the past two years we have successfully convinced quite a
>>>> number of players (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out
>>>> there that enabling RDFa support is not only doable but
>>>> straight-forward and worth it.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR
>>>>> searches), and we are likely to do more.
>>>>
>>>> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and  
>>>> hence
>>>> eating more of our own dogfood ;)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>     Michael
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute NUIG - National
>>>> University of Ireland, Galway Ireland, Europe Tel. +353 91 495730
>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>>>>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>>>>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
>>>>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think  
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> should also take into account what our 'customers' think [1],  
>>>>>> [2]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>>>>>> #w3c site doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The
>>>>> RDF that we use is public:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Group data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>>
>>>>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR
>>>>> searches), and we are likely to do more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>>>>>> API. Just some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our
>>>>>> own dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL,
>>>>>> etc.) in this area and should well be able to demonstrate that we
>>>>>> are able to use them, IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of
>>>>>> semantic technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the
>>>>>> eCommerce domain (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Yahoo! processing structured data, I can't seriously explain to  
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> colleagues or other W3C customers why we don't have structured
>>>>>> data (preferably in RDF) available at the new W3C site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>     Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>>>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre DERI - Digital Enterprise
>>>>>> Research Institute NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>> Ireland, Europe Tel. +353 91 495730 http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will
>>>>>>> notice that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue
>>>>>>> to add content over time and invite your contributions
>>>>>>> (especially from Working Groups).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in
>>>>>>> style sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>>>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>
>>
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>
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