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Re: New W3C Web Site Launched

From: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:59:06 -0500
Message-ID: <da131fde0910140759na97e2fhddb2d1ed14672124@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Cc: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, site-comments@w3.org, chairs@w3.org
Thanks Ian.

Can you please point me to a valid URL for the SVG 1.1 spec in the meantime?

Jeff

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 Oct 2009, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote:
>
>> Um...
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ is now a 404?
>>
>> Please don't break the web! :)
>
>
> Of course not. Obviously we are going to encounter a bunch of things that
> need fixing
> that happened during the deployment (despite careful preparation).
>
> These reports are very helpful and we will fix all the bugs as quickly as we
> can.
>
>  _ Ian
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Hausenblas
>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>>>> that we use
>>>> is public:
>>>>
>>>>  Group data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>
>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>
>>> Thanks! This is good news indeed, though seems not to have not been
>>> communicated in an optimal way. I still think we can do more (re events,
>>> specs, authorships, test cases, etc.) - so many wonderful vocabularies
>>> such
>>> as DOAP, FOAF, SIOC, etc. just waiting to be used ... :)
>>>
>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm dense, but what are you trying to tell me, here ?
>>>
>>> RDFa is just like RDF/XML a RDF serialisation. And a W3C standard. Over
>>> the
>>> past two years we have successfully convinced quite a number of players
>>> (from Drupal over Wordpress to the UK gov) out there that enabling RDFa
>>> support is not only doable but straight-forward and worth it.
>>>
>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
>>>> and we are likely
>>>> to do more.
>>>
>>> Very good! Looking forward to use yet another W3C standard and hence
>>> eating
>>> more of our own dogfood ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>     Michael
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>> Ireland, Europe
>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:39:32 -0500
>>>> To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
>>>> Cc: <site-comments@w3.org>, <chairs@w3.org>, W3C Members
>>>> <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 2:50 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, very nice job re design and usability. However, I think we
>>>>> should
>>>>> also take into account what our 'customers' think [1], [2]:
>>>>>
>>>>> "so, are #semanticweb standards too complicated when even the new
>>>>> #w3c site
>>>>> doesn't use them? #stopsnakeoil"
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> We use RDF all over the place internally to manage the site. The RDF
>>>> that we use
>>>> is public:
>>>>
>>>>  Group data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2000/04/mem-news/public-groups.rdf
>>>>
>>>>  Technical reports data:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/tr.rdf
>>>>
>>>> And there's lots more, such as the Talks data.
>>>>
>>>> We don't use RDFa where we have RDF source data.
>>>>
>>>> Of course we could do more (e.g., a sparql endpoint for TR searches),
>>>> and we are likely
>>>> to do more.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "@iand apparently all of them: No (obvious) RDF export, no SPARQL
>>>>> API. Just
>>>>> some (broken!) hCalendar items."
>>>>>
>>>>> This is indeed a poor message we send out - why don't we eat our own
>>>>> dogfood? We have a couple of nice standards (RDFa, GRDDL, etc.) in
>>>>> this area
>>>>> and should well be able to demonstrate that we are able to use them,
>>>>> IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for spoiling the party, but given the broad uptake of semantic
>>>>> technologies in the governmental area (US, UK), the eCommerce domain
>>>>> (GoodRelations), linked data stuff and Google and Yahoo! processing
>>>>> structured data, I can't seriously explain to my colleagues or other
>>>>> W3C
>>>>> customers why we don't have structured data (preferably in RDF)
>>>>> available at
>>>>> the new W3C site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts, anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>     Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856670048
>>>>> [2] http://twitter.com/bengee/status/4856830531
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
>>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:07:47 -0500
>>>>>> To: W3C Members <w3c-ac-members@w3.org>
>>>>>> Cc: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>> Subject: New W3C Web Site Launched
>>>>>> Resent-From: <chairs@w3.org>
>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Advisory Committee Representatives and Chairs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today W3C launched its new Web site:
>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also launched the new Member site:
>>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/Member/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that you will find the new sites more usable. You will notice
>>>>>> that some pages are missing content; we plan to continue to add
>>>>>> content over time and invite your contributions (especially from
>>>>>> Working Groups).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that over the next few days we will be fixing bugs in style
>>>>>> sheets, and so forth. Feel free to send comments to site-
>>>>>> comments@w3.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>
>
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