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Re: Additional usages for Semanticweb.org

From: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:00:11 +0000
To: Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
CC: Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Markus Krötzsch <markus.kroetzsch@cs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <EMEW3|f55f853ebb4f11fbc7f4cc254d0f0abco0GB0F02hg|ecs.soton.ac.uk|E5952883-AB28-4BFD-ABCE-997881449DD4@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Certainly, Stefan, sounds nice.
As long as it doesn't just become another place I have to remember to put stuff.
So someone would have to persuade (and help?) directory maintainers to automagically source stuff from it.
Oh dear, is that the Semantic Web? Sounds a bit of a challenge :-)
Best
Hugh

On 16 Jan 2012, at 17:25, Stefan Decker wrote:

> Hugh,
> 
> the directory/table style information seems to be very limited.
> Wikipedia descriptions of e.g., Microsoft or IBM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM
> are a lot richer than the directory information contained at the W3C
> site or the STI site.
> So maybe the Semantic Mediawiki style approach combines the best of
> all worlds - reusable catalog metadata, rich descriptions, easy
> extensibility - into one approach?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Eeek!
>> Please, not Yet Another Directory of companies, tools, projects.
>> There are already quite few of these, I think, all expecting people to come along and edit them.
>> This one went through the list only a couple of months ago.
>> http://dir.w3.org/directory/categories_list.xhtml?construct
>> then for projects there is
>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData#Research_Projects_focusing_on_Linked_Data
>> 
>> Of course, if there is a Semantic Web solution so I only have to provide my data once (or even by publishing an RDF file?)... :-)
>> 
>> Well done all resurrecting semantic web.org.
>> Hugh
>> 
>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 09:16, Stefan Decker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think this is an excellent idea.
>>> In the early days we had this with business.semanticweb.org - but it makes
>>> a lot more sense to integrate it into the main site.
>>> To give it a head start maybe a few of us (you, Michael, Markus)
>>> add a number of obvious candidates.
>>> 
>>> Best.
>>> 
>>> Stefan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> One of the use cases for semanticweb.org can be collecting informations
>>>> about SW companies. This can be benefitial both for the resourse, for the
>>>> company and for end users who want to know, what companies are making
>>>> business related to the Semantic Web.
>>>> 1) It's good for semanticweb.org because wiki will be used more intencively.
>>>> Some of the companies will eventually decide to post information about their
>>>> projects.
>>>> 2) It's good for companies. Some of them are too small to be in Wikipedia,
>>>> but can experience a need in self-promotion and search engine optimization.
>>>> Semanticweb.org rank on Alexa.com is big enough and Semantic MediaWiki can
>>>> provide Rich snippets for popular engines so that search results will be
>>>> prettier.
>>>> 3) It's good for user who is interesing in semantic web technologies - a
>>>> younger scientist can make a good survey of the companies, a potential
>>>> customer of semanticweb solutions can have centralized entry point for
>>>> search the company she needs.
>>>> 
>>>> Presently there are some companies described on a wiki. But there is no
>>>> infobox for them and the are not shown on the Main page.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely yours,
>>>> -----
>>>> Yury Katkov
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A recent proposal we are working on is to establish a vocabulary editing
>>>>> facility under SemanticWeb.org,
>>>>> If there are suggestions for usages of SemanticWeb.org
>>>>> we would look forward to hear about those!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> as Stefan, I think this is a great proposal of you!! I appreciate very
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> your kind offer in supporting
>>>>>> the community in archiving the past.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you also have some proposals in mind on how we should support the
>>>>>> future
>>>>>> evolvement
>>>>>> of this information source?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking forward your advice,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 05:42 PM 1/13/2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not an offer, I'm just saying we have one that in the past.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For any future project we'd have to understand what is needed and what
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> would take
>>>>>>> to do, before we could offer anything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 09:46, Stefan Decker wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> this is a great offer!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This is indeed an important issue for the community.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One community service that W3C has provided in the past has been to
>>>>>>>>> take over the service of a domain, like daml.org, which hosts
>>>>>>>>> ontologies which may be used by all kinds of people, but whose
>>>>>>>>> development has stopped.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, we have come to agreements with some domain hosts which
>>>>>>>>> have sem web ontologies that if they wrap up the project or the
>>>>>>>>> organization
>>>>>>>>> we will take over the domain in the future.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> W3C itself has a persistence policy which commits that we will do
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> with another public interest hosting organization should we ever
>>>>>>>>> wrap up W3C.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I could ask folks whether we could do this for *.semanticweb.org
>>>>>>>>> domains
>>>>>>>>> which are no longer being modified.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 04:04, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This is only weakly related to this wiki site discussion but
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> be easy to solve anyway. Short answers:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * Subdomains of semanticweb.org are managed independently and
>>>>>>>>>>> (mainly) on different servers run by different people. The
>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility is
>>>>>>>>>>> with the people who asked for the subdomain. Stefan Decker is
>>>>>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>>>>>> domain registration and should know who is responsible in cases
>>>>>>>>>>> where it is
>>>>>>>>>>> not clear from the web page.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * Content of earlier versions of semanticweb.org has not been
>>>>>>>>>>> migrated in the last relaunch of the site a few years ago. As long
>>>>>>>>>>> as it is
>>>>>>>>>>> just static HTML content that does not conflict with new content
>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., if
>>>>>>>>>>> there is nothing else under that URL now), it would be possible to
>>>>>>>>>>> put it
>>>>>>>>>>> back into its place. To do this, please send me an email with the
>>>>>>>>>>> archived
>>>>>>>>>>> HTML content and let me know where to put it. I do not have access
>>>>>>>>>>> to any
>>>>>>>>>>> old versions of the site, so I cannot help in finding the old
>>>>>>>>>>> content.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How did that happen?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should also have a look at
>>>>>>>>>> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages to figure what is
>>>>>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>>>>>> or not (modulo person-pages and long tail). Happy to invest some
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> content-wise ...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>       Michael
>>>>>>>>>> -[...]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dieter Fensel
>>>>>> Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria
>>>>>> http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/
>>>>>> phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>> 
>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>> 
>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>> 
>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>> 
>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>> 
>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>> 
>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>> 
>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>> 
>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>> 
>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>> 
>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Hugh Glaser,
>>             Web and Internet Science
>>             Electronics and Computer Science,
>>             University of Southampton,
>>             Southampton SO17 1BJ
>> Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045
>> Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Professor Stefan Decker
> 
> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
> 
> Professor of Digital Enterprise
> 
> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
> 
> Tel: +353.91.495011
> 
> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
> 
> Web: http://www.deri.ie
> 
> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org

-- 
Hugh Glaser,  
             Web and Internet Science
             Electronics and Computer Science,
             University of Southampton,
             Southampton SO17 1BJ
Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045
Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/
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