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Re: Additional usages for Semanticweb.org

From: Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:25:52 +0000
Message-ID: <CAJ=-dma7LuOr4=of4VVdVZw4VON9YODqUFnnoOZzWWYeXM2Bmg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Markus Krötzsch <markus.kroetzsch@cs.ox.ac.uk>
Hugh,

the directory/table style information seems to be very limited.
Wikipedia descriptions of e.g., Microsoft or IBM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM
are a lot richer than the directory information contained at the W3C
site or the STI site.
So maybe the Semantic Mediawiki style approach combines the best of
all worlds - reusable catalog metadata, rich descriptions, easy
extensibility - into one approach?

Best,

Stefan






On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> Eeek!
> Please, not Yet Another Directory of companies, tools, projects.
> There are already quite few of these, I think, all expecting people to come along and edit them.
> This one went through the list only a couple of months ago.
> http://dir.w3.org/directory/categories_list.xhtml?construct
> then for projects there is
> http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData#Research_Projects_focusing_on_Linked_Data
>
> Of course, if there is a Semantic Web solution so I only have to provide my data once (or even by publishing an RDF file?)... :-)
>
> Well done all resurrecting semantic web.org.
> Hugh
>
> On 16 Jan 2012, at 09:16, Stefan Decker wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think this is an excellent idea.
>> In the early days we had this with business.semanticweb.org - but it makes
>> a lot more sense to integrate it into the main site.
>> To give it a head start maybe a few of us (you, Michael, Markus)
>> add a number of obvious candidates.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> One of the use cases for semanticweb.org can be collecting informations
>>> about SW companies. This can be benefitial both for the resourse, for the
>>> company and for end users who want to know, what companies are making
>>> business related to the Semantic Web.
>>> 1) It's good for semanticweb.org because wiki will be used more intencively.
>>> Some of the companies will eventually decide to post information about their
>>> projects.
>>> 2) It's good for companies. Some of them are too small to be in Wikipedia,
>>> but can experience a need in self-promotion and search engine optimization.
>>> Semanticweb.org rank on Alexa.com is big enough and Semantic MediaWiki can
>>> provide Rich snippets for popular engines so that search results will be
>>> prettier.
>>> 3) It's good for user who is interesing in semantic web technologies - a
>>> younger scientist can make a good survey of the companies, a potential
>>> customer of semanticweb solutions can have centralized entry point for
>>> search the company she needs.
>>>
>>> Presently there are some companies described on a wiki. But there is no
>>> infobox for them and the are not shown on the Main page.
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>> -----
>>> Yury Katkov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> A recent proposal we are working on is to establish a vocabulary editing
>>>> facility under SemanticWeb.org,
>>>> If there are suggestions for usages of SemanticWeb.org
>>>> we would look forward to hear about those!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> as Stefan, I think this is a great proposal of you!! I appreciate very
>>>>> much
>>>>> your kind offer in supporting
>>>>> the community in archiving the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you also have some proposals in mind on how we should support the
>>>>> future
>>>>> evolvement
>>>>> of this information source?
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward your advice,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 05:42 PM 1/13/2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not an offer, I'm just saying we have one that in the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For any future project we'd have to understand what is needed and what
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> would take
>>>>>> to do, before we could offer anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 09:46, Stefan Decker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is a great offer!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is indeed an important issue for the community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One community service that W3C has provided in the past has been to
>>>>>>>> take over the service of a domain, like daml.org, which hosts
>>>>>>>> ontologies which may be used by all kinds of people, but whose
>>>>>>>> development has stopped.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, we have come to agreements with some domain hosts which
>>>>>>>> have sem web ontologies that if they wrap up the project or the
>>>>>>>> organization
>>>>>>>> we will take over the domain in the future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W3C itself has a persistence policy which commits that we will do
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> with another public interest hosting organization should we ever
>>>>>>>> wrap up W3C.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could ask folks whether we could do this for *.semanticweb.org
>>>>>>>> domains
>>>>>>>> which are no longer being modified.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 04:04, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is only weakly related to this wiki site discussion but
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> be easy to solve anyway. Short answers:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Subdomains of semanticweb.org are managed independently and
>>>>>>>>>> (mainly) on different servers run by different people. The
>>>>>>>>>> responsibility is
>>>>>>>>>> with the people who asked for the subdomain. Stefan Decker is
>>>>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>>>>> domain registration and should know who is responsible in cases
>>>>>>>>>> where it is
>>>>>>>>>> not clear from the web page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Content of earlier versions of semanticweb.org has not been
>>>>>>>>>> migrated in the last relaunch of the site a few years ago. As long
>>>>>>>>>> as it is
>>>>>>>>>> just static HTML content that does not conflict with new content
>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., if
>>>>>>>>>> there is nothing else under that URL now), it would be possible to
>>>>>>>>>> put it
>>>>>>>>>> back into its place. To do this, please send me an email with the
>>>>>>>>>> archived
>>>>>>>>>> HTML content and let me know where to put it. I do not have access
>>>>>>>>>> to any
>>>>>>>>>> old versions of the site, so I cannot help in finding the old
>>>>>>>>>> content.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did that happen?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should also have a look at
>>>>>>>>> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages to figure what is
>>>>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>>>>> or not (modulo person-pages and long tail). Happy to invest some
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> content-wise ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>       Michael
>>>>>>>>> -[...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dieter Fensel
>>>>> Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria
>>>>> http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/
>>>>> phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>
>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>
>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>
>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>
>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>
>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>
>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>
>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>
>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>
>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>
>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>
>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>
>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>
>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>
>
> --
> Hugh Glaser,
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>



-- 
Professor Stefan Decker

Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,

Professor of Digital Enterprise

National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.

Tel: +353.91.495011

E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org

Web: http://www.deri.ie

Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
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