- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:15:55 -0700
- To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Yes, we would copy-paste the section, but I assumed that there would be a link back to the report so that someone looking at a section could see the context. If so, it should link back to the version with the same date/time stamp as the version that was pasted. kc Quoting Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>: > Hi Karen, > > We agree on the requirements. But perhaps not on the means to meet > them. I just thought that we would copy-paste the entire section > contents into the blog posts, which would alleviate your worry 2. > > That being said, we could still create extra "editor's draft" wiki > pages, for these reviewers who don't use the wiki > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits > would be duplicated into > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits_EditorsDraft > which could be the one edited (and both could link to each other in > a disclaimer) > > But again I think this would be less important for reviewers that > got the report via the wiki: they should expect a wiki to change... > > Cheers, > > Antoine > > >> One thing Jodi, Peter, TomB and I discussed this morning in a chat >> about our sections is that the blog posts should link to two things: >> >> 1 - the current state of the report >> 2 - the time-stamped version of the section that is being reviewed >> >> This way, folks can look at the entire section as it was when the >> review was started, but we can continue making changes without it >> changing what people see if they go to look at the section under >> review. >> >> I realize I might not have explained that well, but the main thing >> is that we thought it would be confusing if the reviews are taking >> place on a moving target, especially if someone goes from a blog >> comment to the section being reviewed and doesn't see the text that >> the commenter referenced. >> >> No matter what we do, editing and reviewing on a text that is >> changing will be complicated. Links to "this version" and "latest >> version, possibly with edits" might make it clearer. >> >> kc >> >> Quoting Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>: >> >>> It would probably be easy enough to use the blog categories to order >>> the sections. We could also have a "table of content" post linking to >>> other posts, and use it to gather the general comments. I'm pretty >>> sure there must be a function in Wordpress that allows to make a >>> specific post stay always at the top of the home page. >>> >>> Monica, you can add me as admin, I'll be happy to have a look. >>> >>> Emma >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: >>>> +1 to all this. >>>> >>>> Note that since Monica's blog is Wordpress-based, it should be >>>> easy to have >>>> digress.it, according to what they say: >>>> http://digress.it/help/#how-do-i-download-digressit >>>> Monica, do you think someone at UKOLN could fetch the code and >>>> put it in the >>>> plug-in folder? >>>> >>>> If not, then we'd have to use some tricks: >>>> - to reflect the structure we might have to post the final sections first? >>>> That might be the best way not to lose the sequence, at least. >>>> - for enabling posting comments on the entire document, we should have one >>>> specific "report" post, with the title. And put it in front (ie., >>>> posting it >>>> last?) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Antoine >>>> >>>> >>>>> Seconding Jodi's comments: it is important that the basic >>>>> structure of the >>>>> report be visible. Also that people can post comments that are >>>>> general, no >>>>> just specific to a sub-section. >>>>> >>>>> I also like the idea of listing recent changes. >>>>> >>>>> kc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quoting Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much for doing this, Monica! I can be an admin, if you like >>>>>> (use jodi.a.schneider@gmail.com ). These are good comment settings. >>>>>> >>>>>> A clean theme would be the veryplaintext one: >>>>>> http://www.plaintxt.org/#veryplaintxt >>>>>> >>>>>> Did we decide on whether digress.it would be a good plugin to use? >>>>>> >>>>>> Whoever does post the report -- I'd suggest posting it in small >>>>>> sections, >>>>>> but making sure that the navigation makes sense (i.e. the >>>>>> default shows the >>>>>> first part first, the table of contents shows up in a sidebar). >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps somebody can suggest how to display "recent comments" in a >>>>>> sidebar? This should be a simple change and I know it's common in many >>>>>> blogs. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jodi >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 13:42, Monica Duke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I took an action on Thursday to set up a blog to be used to gather >>>>>>> comments on the draft report from the wider community. The blog is now >>>>>>> available at: >>>>>>> http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # If I may suggest 2 next steps: >>>>>>> 1)We need to agree how we are going to post the report and do it asap - >>>>>>> we did not agree this detail on the call. I guess it would be >>>>>>> best if 2-3 >>>>>>> volunteers (or even just 1?) took care of that. We can't spend >>>>>>> too much time >>>>>>> on deciding and doing it so we do not miss the chance to add >>>>>>> the url to any >>>>>>> emails being sent out to lists to request comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) I need to give access to others in the group who can help administer >>>>>>> the blog and post to it (as will be agreed in 1). I suggest >>>>>>> that I add one >>>>>>> or two more as administrators, and others as editors. Please >>>>>>> send me email >>>>>>> addresses and roles as soon as they are agreed, and I will add them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Comments settings - the following are selected (this can of course be >>>>>>> changed) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Comment author must have a previously approved comment (i.e. comment >>>>>>> will be moderated until user has a first one approved) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Appearance >>>>>>> I suspect others will agree that other than for purposes of >>>>>>> usability we >>>>>>> do not spend much time on cosmetics. I have done the basic, >>>>>>> but I can make >>>>>>> other changes in response to suggestions, and once we have one >>>>>>> or two other >>>>>>> administrators they too will be able to assist with this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basic Wordpress features, plug-ins, settings etc are available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Monica >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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