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Re: Blog for gathering comments on draft report

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:00:40 +0200
Message-ID: <4E019318.4090408@few.vu.nl>
To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Hi Karen,

We agree on the requirements. But perhaps not on the means to meet them. I just thought that we would copy-paste the entire section contents into the blog posts, which would alleviate your worry 2.

That being said, we could still create extra "editor's draft" wiki pages, for these reviewers who don't use the wiki
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits
would be duplicated into
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits_EditorsDraft
which could be the one edited (and both could link to each other in a disclaimer)

But again I think this would be less important for reviewers that got the report via the wiki: they should expect a wiki to change...

Cheers,

Antoine


> One thing Jodi, Peter, TomB and I discussed this morning in a chat about our sections is that the blog posts should link to two things:
>
> 1 - the current state of the report
> 2 - the time-stamped version of the section that is being reviewed
>
> This way, folks can look at the entire section as it was when the review was started, but we can continue making changes without it changing what people see if they go to look at the section under review.
>
> I realize I might not have explained that well, but the main thing is that we thought it would be confusing if the reviews are taking place on a moving target, especially if someone goes from a blog comment to the section being reviewed and doesn't see the text that the commenter referenced.
>
> No matter what we do, editing and reviewing on a text that is changing will be complicated. Links to "this version" and "latest version, possibly with edits" might make it clearer.
>
> kc
>
> Quoting Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>:
>
>> It would probably be easy enough to use the blog categories to order
>> the sections. We could also have a "table of content" post linking to
>> other posts, and use it to gather the general comments. I'm pretty
>> sure there must be a function in Wordpress that allows to make a
>> specific post stay always at the top of the home page.
>>
>> Monica, you can add me as admin, I'll be happy to have a look.
>>
>> Emma
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
>>> +1 to all this.
>>>
>>> Note that since Monica's blog is Wordpress-based, it should be easy to have
>>> digress.it, according to what they say:
>>> http://digress.it/help/#how-do-i-download-digressit
>>> Monica, do you think someone at UKOLN could fetch the code and put it in the
>>> plug-in folder?
>>>
>>> If not, then we'd have to use some tricks:
>>> - to reflect the structure we might have to post the final sections first?
>>> That might be the best way not to lose the sequence, at least.
>>> - for enabling posting comments on the entire document, we should have one
>>> specific "report" post, with the title. And put it in front (ie., posting it
>>> last?)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>
>>>> Seconding Jodi's comments: it is important that the basic structure of the
>>>> report be visible. Also that people can post comments that are general, no
>>>> just specific to a sub-section.
>>>>
>>>> I also like the idea of listing recent changes.
>>>>
>>>> kc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for doing this, Monica! I can be an admin, if you like
>>>>> (use jodi.a.schneider@gmail.com ). These are good comment settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> A clean theme would be the veryplaintext one:
>>>>> http://www.plaintxt.org/#veryplaintxt
>>>>>
>>>>> Did we decide on whether digress.it would be a good plugin to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoever does post the report -- I'd suggest posting it in small sections,
>>>>> but making sure that the navigation makes sense (i.e. the default shows the
>>>>> first part first, the table of contents shows up in a sidebar).
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps somebody can suggest how to display "recent comments" in a
>>>>> sidebar? This should be a simple change and I know it's common in many
>>>>> blogs.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jodi
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 13:42, Monica Duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I took an action on Thursday to set up a blog to be used to gather
>>>>>> comments on the draft report from the wider community. The blog is now
>>>>>> available at:
>>>>>> http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # If I may suggest 2 next steps:
>>>>>> 1)We need to agree how we are going to post the report and do it asap -
>>>>>> we did not agree this detail on the call. I guess it would be best if 2-3
>>>>>> volunteers (or even just 1?) took care of that. We can't spend too much time
>>>>>> on deciding and doing it so we do not miss the chance to add the url to any
>>>>>> emails being sent out to lists to request comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) I need to give access to others in the group who can help administer
>>>>>> the blog and post to it (as will be agreed in 1). I suggest that I add one
>>>>>> or two more as administrators, and others as editors. Please send me email
>>>>>> addresses and roles as soon as they are agreed, and I will add them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Comments settings - the following are selected (this can of course be
>>>>>> changed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment author must have a previously approved comment (i.e. comment
>>>>>> will be moderated until user has a first one approved)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Appearance
>>>>>> I suspect others will agree that other than for purposes of usability we
>>>>>> do not spend much time on cosmetics. I have done the basic, but I can make
>>>>>> other changes in response to suggestions, and once we have one or two other
>>>>>> administrators they too will be able to assist with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basic Wordpress features, plug-ins, settings etc are available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monica
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