(regrets and schema.org) Re: Agenda - June 16 2011 - LLD XG telecon - 1000 EDT from William Waites on 2011-06-15 (public-xg-lld@w3.org from June 2011)

From: William Waites <ww@styx.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:11:16 +0200
To: Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>
Cc: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20110615221116.GL42832@styx.org>
My apologies, I'll not be able to make the telecon tomorrow.

Jeff and I have corresponded a bit about schema.org, and I've added
a short section to the Relevant Technologies section:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Relevant_Technologies#Microformats.2C_Microdata_and_RDFa

The gist is:

  - microdata/schema.org is primarily intended for SEO
  - schema.org's vocabulary is heavy in the tourism and commerce areas
    and would need a lot of extension to do libraries
  - there is some level of interoperability with schema.rdfs.org
  - that interoperability only helps a little with interlinking different
    library and other datasets
  - it is possible to feed the search engines RDFa
  - it is possible (modulo rumoured bugs) to feed the search engines both
    RDFa and microdata from the same page
  - if you can't do RDF and can't do RDFa then some schema.org is better
    than nothing

Cheers,
-w

* [2011-06-15 22:56:20 +0200] Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org> écrit:

] Agenda - June 16 2011 - LLD XG telecon - 1000 EDT
] 
] Time - http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Telecons#Connection_info
]      http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s_4061
]      0700 Seattle - 1000 New York - 1500 London - 1600 Paris - 2300 Kuala Lumpur
]      2400 Tokyo - 0200 Sydney (next day)
] 
] W3C Library Linked Data Incubator group:
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/                   - home page
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/              - wiki
]       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/      - group list
]       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/         - community list
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Telecons      - telecons
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda - "running agenda"
] 
] Chair: Emmanuelle
] Scribe: ?
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty
]       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/Scribing.html - how to
] Regrets:
] 
] ======================================================================
] ADMIN
] -- Minutes of previous telecons
]   PROPOSED: To accept
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
] 
] -- Telecons - http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Telecons
]      2011-06-23 Antoine (regrets Tom)
]      2011-06-30 Emma (regrets Tom)
]      2011-07-07 Emma (regrets Tom)
]      2011-07-14 NO TELECON
]      2011-07-21 Antoine (regrets Emma)
]      2011-07-28 NO TELECON
]      2011-08-04 Tom
]      2011-08-11 NO TELECON
]      2011-08-18 Antoine (regrets Emma)
]      2011-08-25 final telecon (Tom)
] 
] -- LOD-LAM summit (2011-06-02/03)
] 
]      ACTION: Tom to send email to the LOD-LAM participants and create
] a final version of the presentation [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html#action01]
] 
] ======================================================================
] FINAL REPORT
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
] 
] ACTION: Antoine and Emmanuelle to talk about strategies for getting
] comments at next call [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action15]
] -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0051.html
] -- posting to a blog ?
] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0017.html
] 
] Tom's proposal for a review strategy:
] -- 2011-06-07: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0002.html
] -- 2011-06-09: discussion during call and refinement:
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
] 
] ACTION: Co-chairs to draft message to the community about review
] between 16 June and 20 July - post before next call, on 16 June
] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html#action02]
] 
] ACTION: Jeff and William to propose text on microdata and schema.org -
] where in the report it should be discussed [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html#action03]
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] EXECUTIVE SUMMARY (tbd)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ExecutiveSummary
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] "LIBRARY LINKED DATA": SCOPE OF THIS REPORT (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report
] 
] ACTION: everyone to read
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report
] and do lightweight review [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action04]
] 
] ACTION: Jodi to send email about Scope statement [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action05]
] --DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0048.html
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] BENEFITS OF LINKED DATA (Ed, Emmanuelle, Ross)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits
] 
] ACTION: Karen to edit the Benefits section [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html#action06]
] -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0080.html
] 
] ACTION: Tom to ask Hideaki or Dickson to review
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action06]
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] AVAILABLE VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS (Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] RELEVANT TECHNOLOGIES (Jeff)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Relevant_Technologies
] 
] ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html#action04]
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION (Karen, Peter, Tom,
] Gordon, Jodi)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_issues_page
] 
] ACTION: Gordon and Karen to consider relation between problems and
] limitation section and the library resource wiki page. [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minutes.html#action01]
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_data
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
] 
] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
] RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page
] 
] ACTION: Jeff to review
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page
] for next week [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action12]
] -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011May/0052.html
] 
] ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute
] curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [recorded in
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action13]
] 
] ======================================================================
] LIBRARY LINKED DATA: VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE
] (Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William)
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabulary_and_Dataset
]    Two Clouds: Metadata Element Sets and Datasets/Value Vocabularies
] 
] ======================================================================
] USE CASES (Daniel) - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE
] -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCaseReport
] 
] ACTION: Jodi to review
] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCaseReport for next week
] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action14]
] 
] ======================================================================
] TRANSITION TO W3C COMMUNITY GROUP
] -- http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/04/coming_soon_w3c_community_grou.html
]    See also http://www.w3.org/2010/12/community/final
] 
] 2011-05-12: Should inform W3C of intent to transition by 1 August for
] transition on 1 September.
] 
] ======================================================================
] AOB
] 

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