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Re: Building Linked Data into the Core of the Web

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:35:20 +0200
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To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Web Payments <public-webpayments@w3.org>
On 19 September 2014 03:49, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> On 09/14/2014 04:58 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> > It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your post above)
> > to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of the Web. The
> > absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been the core of
> > the Web since it was an idea [1][2].
>
> Well, that's one of the points I make at the beginning of the talk. I
> also mention that saying "Linked Data" is part of the core of the web is
> a bit of a cop-out. Web developers don't understand that, and until they
> do, I don't consider Linked Data as a core part of the Web in the same
> way that HTML, Javascript, and HTTP is a core part of the Web. I was not
> just coming at this from a technical standpoint, I was also making a
> statement about the general Web developer community's understanding of
> Linked Data.
>

Not only is linked data part of the web, it was the *motivation* for the
web.

>From day 1 the proposal back in 1989 was of an information system where
data is linked:

http://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html

We have a lost generation of web 2.0 developers that mostly havent seen or
understood the implications of that document.

But saying that linked data is not in the core of the web is a bit like
saying anonymous functions are not in the core of JavaScript.  Now it's
true that 10 years ago most JS developers would not realize the elegance of
the language.  But Douglas Cockroft came along and blew that all away with
his "JavaScript, the good parts".

There are different ways to convey the message, but I think it's hard to
dispute that linked data is core to the web.


>
> > Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, indefensible, and at
> > best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the letters "R-D-F"
> > . And HttpRange-14 as a censorship tool (based on its ridiculous
> > history), that blurs fixing this horrible state of affairs.
>
> +1
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments
> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/
>
>
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