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Re: RDF Slides for SemTechBiz in June

From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:14:51 -0400
Cc: RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <0A90D9AA-F6F4-4B44-88F6-8FA118D82670@3roundstones.com>
To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Hi Sandro,

On May 30, 2012, at 10:12, Sandro Hawke wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 11:56 -0400, David Wood wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Thanks to all who reviewed.  The presentation has been updated.  Detailed comments below.
> 
> And now some more comments.   Overall, speaking as someone who's done
> lots of these, it looks good.
> 
> A few little things:
> 
> - I wouldn't say "consensus is fragile", because that suggests the
> process is unreliable.  I'd say these are the decisions we've made based
> on the input we have so far, but we're still gathering input and if
> something unexpected comes in, at this stage we might still change the
> design because of the new data.

Changed.

> 
> - The list of current resolutions is nice; maybe also point to the list
> of closed issues:
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/closed

Done.

> (it might be nice to view them side-by-side, some day.   Many of them
> need the other.  Want an RDF dump of the issues?  :-)

Sure!  How can I keep them up to date?  Can you give me a URL to them?

BTW: The way that is done is to run a SPARQL query on the RDF and then pretty-print the results via some simple JS.

> 
> - On little turtle changes, I'd include issue 18. ("You no longer need
> to put a space before the period, but you do need to include a trailing
> digit after your decimal points.")

Done.

Thanks for your input.

Regards,
Dave


> 
>    -- Sandro
> 
>> On May 28, 2012, at 04:35, Richard Cyganiak wrote:
>>> Slide 17 says: "The value space consists of is a setů" Remove the extra words
>> 
>> Done.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 16+17 Value space and equality for rdf:XMLLiteral and rdf:HTML are in fact identical; the slides sort of re-state them in different ways, implying a significant difference
>> 
>> Thanks, normalized.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 17 It's rdf:HTML, not rdf:HTMLLiteral
>> 
>> OK.  Changed.
>> 
>>> Maybe worth noting that one can now escape characters in prefixed names using backslashes: ex:resource\/thing123, ex:thing123\#this. In general, there was an attempt to allow as many characters as possible unescaped in prefixed names (period, colon, digit at start), while allowing the rest in escaped form.
>> 
>> Done.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 28, 2012, at 04:21, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>> Slide 5: +1 to DanBri's point about N3
>> 
>> Looking back at the presentation and my notes, I have no idea why that is there.  It has been removed.
>> 
>> Thanks to Nathan, Dan and Andy for catching that error!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Was that supposed to be N-Quads and TriG?
>> 
>> Hmm, no.  I didn't want to say anything about anything that might not happen.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Slide 18:
>>> 
>>> Worth mentioning UTF-8 for N-triples?
>> 
>> Done.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Slide 19:
>>> 
>>> In Turtle, I thought "true" and "false" are case sensitive (they should have been in SPARQL because the lexcial forms in XSD are -- too late).
>> 
>> Good catch!  The January 2010 ED [1] says "case-independent constants for XSD booleans true and false", but the current Turtle editors' draft, section 3.2.3 [2] says:
>> [[
>> Boolean values may be written as either true or false (case-sensitive) and represent RDF literals with the datatype xsd:boolean
>> ]]
>> 
>>> 
>>> ns:foo:bar is now legal.
>> 
>> Thanks, added.
>> 
>> On May 27, 2012, at 22:31, Nathan wrote:
>>> Slide 11 - "Graph Container ... like a set" - ensure they know you mean a mutable set, rather than a static mathematical set.
>> 
>> Thanks.  I added the word "mutable".
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> [1]  http://www.w3.org/2010/01/Turtle/
>> [2]  http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#representing-booleans-in-turtle
>> 
>>> 
>>> 	Andy
>>> 
>>> On 28/05/12 03:15, David Wood wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> My slides for a talk on "Updating RDF" to be given at SemTechBiz [1] on Wed, 6 June in San Francisco are at [2].  Any comments appreciated.  The speaker's notes are at the bottom of the slides.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> [1]  http://semtechbizsf2012.semanticweb.com/
>>>> [2]  http://www.slideshare.net/3roundstones/rdf-wg-update-semtechbiz-2012
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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