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Re: ISSUE-28 (was: Re: Draft agenda / final one in a few hours late)

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:42:17 -0500
Cc: Guus Schreiber <guus.schreiber@vu.nl>, RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <803D533B-60CA-4EEB-B6A8-597D8C4856CD@ihmc.us>
To: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>

On May 23, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Richard Cyganiak wrote:

> Pat,
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> On 23 May 2012, at 02:02, Pat Hayes wrote:
>> My votes on proposed resolutoins for issues 5, 29, 30 and 33 are +1, and my vote on the resolution for issue-28 is +1, provided that the WG accepts that this resolution has the consequence that we MUST give a semantics to datasets which ensures that the name of a named graph actually does denote the graph, in the 2004 Semantics sense of "denote". Without this acceptance, I formally vote against this resolution for issue 28. 
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> Let me propose a different wording for the ISSUE-28 resolution then:
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> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-28 ("Do we need syntactic nesting of graphs (g-texts) as in N3?"), saying No, we do not -- the use cases presented to the WG can be addressed without, and making syntactic nesting pay off would require additional logic machinery that's beyond this WG's scope.
> ]]
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> The point being that nesting may be a great enabler for things like N3 rules or your RDF Surfaces proposal, but are not really worth it unless we also get N3's @forall or your negative surfaces, and I think it's clear that this WG cannot do that. So no need to complicate our current job by writing nested graphs into the standard now.

OK, I am cool with that wording. +1 vote.

Pat

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> Richard
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>> On May 22, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Guus Schreiber wrote:
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>>> All,
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>>> There is draft agenda containing the left overs from last week:
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>>>  http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.05.23
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>>> but I will update this with a few more items later today.
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>>> Guus
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