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ISSUE-28 (was: Re: Draft agenda / final one in a few hours late)

From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:19:55 +0100
Cc: Guus Schreiber <guus.schreiber@vu.nl>, RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <CF496830-E4F0-40FB-871A-493202804B46@cyganiak.de>
To: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Pat,

On 23 May 2012, at 02:02, Pat Hayes wrote:
> My votes on proposed resolutoins for issues 5, 29, 30 and 33 are +1, and my vote on the resolution for issue-28 is +1, provided that the WG accepts that this resolution has the consequence that we MUST give a semantics to datasets which ensures that the name of a named graph actually does denote the graph, in the 2004 Semantics sense of "denote". Without this acceptance, I formally vote against this resolution for issue 28. 

Let me propose a different wording for the ISSUE-28 resolution then:

[[
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-28 ("Do we need syntactic nesting of graphs (g-texts) as in N3?"), saying No, we do not -- the use cases presented to the WG can be addressed without, and making syntactic nesting pay off would require additional logic machinery that's beyond this WG's scope.
]]

The point being that nesting may be a great enabler for things like N3 rules or your RDF Surfaces proposal, but are not really worth it unless we also get N3's @forall or your negative surfaces, and I think it's clear that this WG cannot do that. So no need to complicate our current job by writing nested graphs into the standard now.

Richard




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> Pat
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> On May 22, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Guus Schreiber wrote:
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>> All,
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>> There is draft agenda containing the left overs from last week:
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>>   http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.05.23
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>> but I will update this with a few more items later today.
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>> Guus
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