Re: on evaluation

My view is that there should be no requirement that focus nodes are validated
against the filter shapes of a shape before they are validated against the
constraints of the shape.  I have previously mentioned several reasons that
led me to this view.

Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Nuance Communications


On 09/28/2016 06:40 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Peter, how would you describe the action that takes place then? Because there
> is an implied action and work flow. Implemented? executed? enforced? resolved?
> (I'm running through the thesaurus entries.)
> 
> kc
> 
> On 9/27/16 3:43 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>> For starters, filter shapes are not "applied to the data graph", so, no.
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>> On 09/27/2016 03:38 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
>>> Peter, would this suggestion work better for you? I assume someone could argue
>>> that "applied" is not defined.
>>>
>>> Holger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/09/2016 1:44, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>> Filter shapes must be ...
>>>>  - applied to the data graph
>>>> ... before validating....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/26/16 4:38 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone else find this sentence unclear? If yes, could someone
>>>>> suggest alternative wording?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Filter shapes MUST be validated before validating the associated shapes
>>>>> or constraints."
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Holger
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/09/2016 1:52, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>>>>>> How is a shape "validated"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This problem even affects the second half of the sentence I initially
>>>>>> quoted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/26/2016 12:18 AM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
>>>>>>> Replaced with "validated":
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/commit/d4fbdebd7044cd79f35985a75a54994ea3facde9
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/09/2016 15:59, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Filter shapes MUST be evaluated before validating the associated
>>>>>>>> shapes or
>>>>>>>> constraints."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Evaluation is not defined.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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> 

Received on Wednesday, 28 September 2016 20:57:24 UTC