agenda: RDF Data Access 16 Nov

1. Convene, take roll, review agenda

 RDF Data Access Working Group
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/
 Tuesday 2004-11-16 9:30am-11:30am/14:30-16:30 UTC
 Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 7333 ("RDFD")
 supplementary IRC chat: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/dawg
   log to appear: http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-dawg-irc

chair: EricP
scribe: SimonR
regrets: 

Next meeting: Tuesday 2004-11-16 at 14:30 UTC,
 provided a chair and scribe emerge
 regrets: DanC for 16 Nov, 23 Nov, 30 Nov

PROPOSE: to accept as a true record:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0264.html
as amended by
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0267.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0289.html

propose to continue these without discussion:
ACTION DanC: owner of issue 'yes or no questions' (pending protocol doc)
ACTION AlbertoR: owns issue 'DESCRIBE'
ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to  
generate input/output RDF/XML and typed nodes into manifest file
ACTION EricP: find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March
  28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days).  Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week.


2. FTF 4

19-20 January 2005 Espoo, Finland (Hosted by Profium)
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0211.html
dress warmly!

ACTION DanC: Make a dawg f2f4 registration form
DONE
See
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0268.html


3. Protocol

Protocol draft:
  [protocol] http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol/

ACTION KendallC: expose our walking tour data to SPARQL querying clients
  ETA before F2F4

ACTION TomA: read the protocol draft [protocol] and email a review to
the WG before the next telcon 2004-11-09

ACTION JanneS: read the protocol draft [protocol] and email a review to
the WG before the next telcon 2004-11-09
DONE
See
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0293.html

4. SPARQL SOURCE Issue

Any more discussion of
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html
?

ACTION JanneS: review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0256.html
and check what happens when no source support is implemented

ACTION DaveB: update the dawg test repository to record or amend
tests to correspond to the
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html
proposal

ACTION DanC: suggest formal definitions for SOURCE


5. SPARQL Disjunction issue

ACTION SimonR: explain how much of disjuction can be done with
optionals, nested or otherwise.  Point to references, problems with
LEFT OUTER JOIN in the literature.
Related:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0294.html

ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue

ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'


6. SPARQL update, issues

See
  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/

ACTION EricP: supply definitions for SELECT (vars ordered or not?) ala
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0151.html
WITHDRAW?
See
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/thread.html#265
and look for "Definition: Projection" in
  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#select


ACTION PatH review SPARQL def'ns post-publication

ACTION: AndyS to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query

DanC asked for somebody else to help on reading and responding to the

ACTION: Tom Adams volunteered and got the job to read the list, respond
and pass on things to/from the WG and the comments list.
[ ACTION interpreted from 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0264.html ]


7. Next SPARQL WD: timing, reviewers

next WD: December

ACTION DanC: notify SemWeb CG of EbXML possible sync point in April
-- 
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