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Re: PROV-ISSUE-233 (paq-dm-and-accounts?): If not in DM, should there be some form of account support in the paq? [Accessing and Querying Provenance]

From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:01:01 +0000
To: Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
CC: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <EMEW3|2a1b222ee0f96b7b6ac28ae852427910o17A1508L.Moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|0555311C-1D25-410D-9219-D00C57B4C555@ecs.soton.ac.uk>

Hi graham

In short, to be able to retrieve prov from a service with the following parameters:

 Http;//service/endpoint&entity=...&account=...

And have a mechanism to pass account ids.

Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
Southampton SO17 1BJ
United Kingdom


On 8 Feb 2012, at 08:35, "Graham Klyne" <Graham.Klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Luc,
> 
> I find that don't really know what you are asking for here.
> 
> I propose that either:
> (a) you make a more concrete proposal that we can consider, or
> (b) I close the issue "wontfix"
> 
> In judging any new proposal, I would expect to apply the "razor" we agreed in the F2F, in that if the proposal is not readily consensual then we should err on the side of under-specification rather than over-specification.  Generally, I think we should now be looking to remove material from the documents rather than add it.
> 
> #g
> --
> 
> On 07/02/2012 14:53, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>> Then all bets are off beyond what you already know..
>> 
>> Or do you mean paq could be a general URI resolver?
>> On Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM, "Luc Moreau"<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Stian,
>>> Sure, but what happens when accounts are identified by UUIDs ...
>>> Luc
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2012 10:08 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:35, Luc Moreau<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.**uk<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I already flagged the need of being able to retrieve the provenance of an
>>>>> entity in a given account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> If you know the account/"provenance resource" URI, just fetch it.
>>>> 
>>>> If not, then the PAQ will tell you about the provenance resources
>>>> ("accounts") that it knows about. You can fetch them individually and
>>>> choose yourself how you would like to separate or merge them.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Professor Luc Moreau
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>>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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