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Re: Simple Linked Data Publishing For Non Programmers

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:26:53 -0400
Message-ID: <501161BD.7010000@openlinksw.com>
To: public-lod@w3.org
On 7/26/12 9:06 AM, Adrian Walker wrote:
> Hi Kingsley,
>
> You wrote....
>
> /Yes, but that's /[need for caching, replication] /another topic for a 
> different debate since SPARQL isn't mandatory for Linked Data 
> Publishing. Its just a *very* powerful declarative query language for 
> exploiting Webby Linked Data/
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but surely any alternative to SPARQL 
> would face exactly the same  reliability over distributed-data problem?

To answer specifically about SPARQL, there is a protocol component that 
allows you to exploit the prowess of HTTP based data access, at Web 
scale. Cache invalidation and content negotiation integrated into SPARQL 
provides for powerful utility that's unrivaled by any other declarative 
query language e.g., SQL. Even better when you combine them both, as 
we've done for a very long time re. data virtualization etc..


Kingsley
>
>                               Cheers,  -- Adrian
>
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> Adrian Walker
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>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kingsley Idehen 
> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 7/25/12 6:20 PM, Adrian Walker wrote:
>>     Hi Kingsley, Michael & All,
>>
>>     There is of course the 10-90 rule for taking things from early
>>     prototypes to industrial strength systems.  (You get 90% of the
>>     way with 10% of the effort, but the rest takes 90% of the effort.)
>>
>>     Looking to the industrial future, there's another concern about
>>     SPARQL.  When a complex query is running, it may need to pull
>>     data from many endpoints.  If one of these is down or busy, the
>>     query fails.
>>
>>     Is there perhaps some work already on automatic local caching, or
>>     on seamless access to replicated endpoints ?
>
>     Yes, but that's another topic for a different debate since SPARQL
>     isn't mandatory for Linked Data Publishing. Its just a *very*
>     powerful declarative query language for exploiting Webby Linked
>     Data :-)
>
>     Kingsley
>>
>>                                         Thanks,                -- Adrian
>>
>>     Internet Business Logic
>>     A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English
>>     Q/A over SQL and RDF
>>     Online at www.reengineeringllc.com <http://www.reengineeringllc.com>
>>     Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements
>>
>>     Adrian Walker
>>     Reengineering
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Michael Brunnbauer
>>     <brunni@netestate.de <mailto:brunni@netestate.de>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Hello Kingsley,
>>
>>         On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 01:31:32PM -0400, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>         > One of the fundamental misconceptions about Linked Data is the
>>         > assumption that Web-scale publication is a complex process,
>>         utterly
>>         > beyond the capabilities of end-users that are already
>>         capable of
>>         > creating, editing, and saving a document to a local or
>>         network drive.
>>         >
>>         > I've written a detailed post [1] showcasing how anyone can
>>         publish
>>         > Linked Data via a Turtle document ...
>>
>>         I showed your post to my wife - who has been working in
>>         online publishing for
>>         more than 10 years. She has worked with many web content
>>         management systems
>>         and is able to read and write HTML markup.
>>
>>         Like I expected, she lost you in the second paragraph. Maybe
>>         she would be able
>>         to learn linked data like she learned HTML - the hard way.
>>         But it would in
>>         fact be much harder because this time, she would have no
>>         reason to learn it
>>         and no tool to try out changes and see immediate *results*.
>>
>>         Giovanni Tummarello recently summarized it all very good
>>         recently:
>>
>>         http://www.mail-archive.com/public-lod@w3.org/msg11194.html
>>
>>         We have to be honest with ourselves about this technology.
>>         Whose problems does
>>         it solve ? Who can understand it ? Are the tools usable in
>>         practise ? My
>>         answers to these questions are not optimistic.
>>
>>         I understand that all these answers can change with time and
>>         some day we may
>>         have the bright future you are seeing. But I would not take
>>         that for granted.
>>         There is much work to do.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>
>>         Michael Brunnbauer
>>
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>
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>
>     Kingsley Idehen	
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