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Re: Simple Linked Data Publishing For Non Programmers

From: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:06:40 -0400
Message-ID: <CABbsESd2byzMyXt2Hyxyp-cwN9jjmX_u8SOsBTa5t9ZgiiS99w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: public-lod@w3.org
Hi Kingsley,

You wrote....

*Yes, but that's *[need for caching, replication] *another topic for a
different debate since SPARQL isn't mandatory for Linked Data Publishing.
Its just a *very* powerful declarative query language for exploiting Webby
Linked Data*

Maybe I'm missing something here, but surely any alternative to SPARQL
would face exactly the same  reliability over distributed-data problem?

                              Cheers,  -- Adrian


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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote:

>  On 7/25/12 6:20 PM, Adrian Walker wrote:
>
> Hi Kingsley, Michael & All,
>
> There is of course the 10-90 rule for taking things from early prototypes
> to industrial strength systems.  (You get 90% of the way with 10% of the
> effort, but the rest takes 90% of the effort.)
>
> Looking to the industrial future, there's another concern about SPARQL.
> When a complex query is running, it may need to pull data from many
> endpoints.  If one of these is down or busy, the query fails.
>
> Is there perhaps some work already on automatic local caching, or on
> seamless access to replicated endpoints ?
>
>
> Yes, but that's another topic for a different debate since SPARQL isn't
> mandatory for Linked Data Publishing. Its just a *very* powerful
> declarative query language for exploiting Webby Linked Data :-)
>
> Kingsley
>
>
>                                     Thanks,                -- Adrian
>
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Kingsley,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 01:31:32PM -0400, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> > One of the fundamental misconceptions about Linked Data is the
>> > assumption that Web-scale publication is a complex process, utterly
>> > beyond the capabilities of end-users that are already capable of
>> > creating, editing, and saving a document to a local or network drive.
>> >
>> > I've written a detailed post [1] showcasing how anyone can publish
>>  > Linked Data via a Turtle document ...
>>
>> I showed your post to my wife - who has been working in online publishing
>> for
>> more than 10 years. She has worked with many web content management
>> systems
>> and is able to read and write HTML markup.
>>
>> Like I expected, she lost you in the second paragraph. Maybe she would be
>> able
>> to learn linked data like she learned HTML - the hard way. But it would in
>> fact be much harder because this time, she would have no reason to learn
>> it
>> and no tool to try out changes and see immediate *results*.
>>
>> Giovanni Tummarello recently summarized it all very good recently:
>>
>>  http://www.mail-archive.com/public-lod@w3.org/msg11194.html
>>
>> We have to be honest with ourselves about this technology. Whose problems
>> does
>> it solve ? Who can understand it ? Are the tools usable in practise ? My
>> answers to these questions are not optimistic.
>>
>> I understand that all these answers can change with time and some day we
>> may
>> have the bright future you are seeing. But I would not take that for
>> granted.
>> There is much work to do.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Brunnbauer
>>
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>
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