- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <50116338.4040308@openlinksw.com>
On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen > <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: > > On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: > > Hello Pablo, > > nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of > small and big > databases and APIs. > > What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a > small/medium sized > player switch from > > -using URLs of pages about things to using URIs that denote things > > -APIs and RDBs to RDF/SPARQL/OWL > > > How about looking at it this way. You are packaging and selling > data access via the Web. The big challenges are: > > 1. slicing up value units > 2. associating monetary values with those units > 3. identifying who has access to units of value, and under what > terms and conditions. > > 1-3 happens in a machine readable way. This is the problem solved > by WebID, WebID authentication protocols, and WebID based access > control lists. As I am sure you know, the aforementioned are just > application of Linked Data. > > > mmm.. what problem is this solving? How am I reducing costs and saving > money with this? Of course you are reducing costs, saving money, and accelerating enterprise agility if you have control over 1-3. If you can't control access to your data using sophisticate policies that reflect your data usage domain, the resulting costs will simply introduce inertia. Remember, I did ask for specificity. You are generalizing when you say: does it reduce costs or save money. In what business model context? . Let's discuss a specific business model associated with Linked Data. If you want to talk about enterprise exploitation of Linked Data, that's fine. If you want to talk about Data as a Service, that's fine. Let's nail down what we are talking about, that's all I ask of you. Kingsley > Links: > > 1. https://plus.google.com/s/webid%20acls%20idehen -- posts and > exercises showcasing utility of WebID ACLs . > > Kingsley > > > Regards, > > Michael Brunnbauer > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:18:26PM +0200, Pablo N. Mendes wrote: > > Would the offer of data and API integration services > count? There is linked > data without Linked Data: > "Factual Places combines data on 58 million local > businesses and points of > interest with rich APIs to bring context to every point > worldwide." > http://www.factual.com/solutions/web-and-mobile-apps > http://www.factual.com/solutions/enterprise > > --- > Pablo N. Mendes > http://pablomendes.com > Events: http://wole2012.eurecom.fr (*Deadline: July 31st > 2012*) > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Kingsley Idehen > <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>>wrote: > > All, > > There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of > functional and scalable > business models with regards to Linked Data. I think > its time for an open > discussion about this matter. > > It's no secret, I've never seen business models as > challenging Linked > Data. Quite the contrary. That said, instead of a dump > from me about my > viewpoints on Linked Data models, how about starting > this discussion by > identifying any non "Advertising based business model" > that have actually > worked on the Web to date. > > As far as I know, "Advertising" and "Surreptitious > Personal Profile Data > Wholesale" are the only models that have made a > difference to the bottom > lines of: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo! and other > non eCommerce > oriented behemoths. > > Based on the above, let's have a serious and frank > discussion about > business models with the understanding agreement that > one size will never > fit all, ever, so this rule cannot be overlooked re. > Linked Data. Also > remember, Business models aren't silver bullets, they > are typically aligned > with markets (qualified and quantified pain points) > and the evolving nature > of tangible and monetizable value. > > Hopefully, the floor is now open to everyone that has > a vested interest in > this very important matter :-) > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog: > http://www.openlinksw.com/**blog/~kidehen > <http://www.openlinksw.com/**blog/%7Ekidehen><http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>> > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > Google+ Profile: > https://plus.google.com/**112399767740508618350/about<https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about> > LinkedIn Profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/**kidehen<http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen> > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen> > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > > Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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