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Re: Please review: CSS vs Markup FAQ rewrite

From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:38:27 +0200
To: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: "GEO" <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, "'fantasai'" <fantasai@inkedblade.net>, "'Steven Pemberton'" <Steven.Pemberton@cwi.nl>
Message-ID: <jvrhl195p53as4ns0e74338tsbqi76l1pv@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de>

* Richard Ishida wrote:
>[2] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/temp.html

The document correctly notes that there may be user agents that do not
recognize the markup. To clarify what this means, I've made a copy of
the document above with entities replaced by character references and
the document type declaration and namespace declaration removed,

  http://www.bjoernsworld.de/temp/qa-bidi-css-markup.xml

If you compare the two documents in e.g. Mozilla FireFox you will note
that even if you follow the recommendation in the document to use CSS
rules to control bidi and direction properties, you won't get a usable
result.

To demonstrate how close the current style sheets are, I've made another
document which just links the two style sheets using the xml-stylesheet
processing instruction,

  http://www.bjoernsworld.de/temp/qa-bidi-css-markup-2.xml

And based on this one I made a third version which just adds some rules
found in http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/sample.html including the proposed
rules for bidi markup in the proposed FAQ,

  http://www.bjoernsworld.de/temp/qa-bidi-css-markup-3.xml

So at least for FireFox we're now at a point where the document is
no longer unreadable; I would not say the document is particularily
readable, usable or functional though.

You note that even after adding replacements for the <style> and <link>
elements, many things still don't work, e.g., links, class attributes,
forms, images, the <title> element, etc.

Making XHTML documents "work" in some way in user agents that do not
support XHTML is very different from simply serving XHTML documents as
application/xhtml+xml to user agents that *do* support XHTML, as you
can see when loading e.g.

  http://www.bjoernsworld.de/temp/qa-bidi-css-markup-4.xml

in FireFox.
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