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Re: [jlreq] Comment to WD-20111129

From: KOBAYASHI Tatsuo(FAMILY Given) <tlk@kobysh.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:56:35 +0900
Message-ID: <CAHKerJu-QSmqoXJ+uCgaz8--MxCccs-gpiKKcYhOwJzSadXn2g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
Cc: IKEDA Soji <ikeda@conversion.co.jp>, "public-i18n-cjk@w3.org" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
Mr. Ikeda,

Japanese team of JLTF decided to modify both Japanese and English text a
little bit to the things more clear with your comment and Ishii-san's
suggestion.
Thank you very much for your comment.

2012/2/7 Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>

> While I understand what you said, I think both usages exist, so "almost
> incorrect" is too much.
>
> > In professional printings, upright characters often keep their
> proportional glyphs,
> > and are placed onto one em square spacing.
>
> I agree that some authors prefer such styles, especially when full-width
> glyphs in fonts weren't good quality. But recent fonts have improved the
> quality of full-width alpha-numeric glyphs and also they tend to have the
> same glyph, just with different widths. With such fonts, I think authors
> tend to prefer full-width glyphs for upright characters. See a capture from
> Mac Fan magazine[1].
>
> > Characters of their own may not have extended (fullwidth) glyphs.
>
> That's correct, but again, recent fonts have OpenType 'fwid' feature for
> code points that do not have full-width code points, so the problem you
> pointed out are gradually resolved.
>
> That says, while there are cases you pointed out is correct, there are
> cases the current text is correct too.
>
> In Japanese version, it says "in general" but it's missing in English
> text. Adding that could resolve your concern, or adding "both usages exist"
> might work better.
>
> [1] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-writing-modes/#fig-mac
>
> Regards,
> Koji
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IKEDA Soji [mailto:ikeda@conversion.co.jp]
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:11 PM
> To: public-i18n-cjk@w3.org
> Subject: [jlreq] Comment to WD-20111129
>
> Section 3.2.3 "Mixed Text Composition in Vertical Writing Mode":
> a.
> | Full-width glyphs are specified for Latin letters and European
> | numerals in this style.
>
> This is almost incorret.  In professional printings, upright characters
> often keep their proportional glyphs, and are placed onto one em square
> spacing.  Characters of their own may not have extended (fullwidth) glyphs.
>
> Please compare Latin letters ("G", "D" and "P") in figures 3.41 and 3.42
> of current working draft.
>
> Also, please consult JIS X 4051:2004, note of 4.7 (b).
>
> Regards,
>
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