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Re: What is (the status of) a 'Group note'

From: Willem-Siebe Spoelstra <info@spoelstra.ws>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:52:28 +0200
Message-ID: <CAPGOeDvvXZkDKw0BS_ad0z8oCUpmLOyZ2wPyKpuQ7EvEcFCHAw@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, W3C Public HTML <public-html@w3.org>
Hi John,

But how do you know when a 'Working Group Note' is finished, when this also
can indicate a '*initial state of a technical report'? *Besides that, I
always find 'Group notes' under the 'Completed work' section...

About the 'Note' you are talking about, this is what I read about that from
the same link I provided:

*Note:* To avoid confusion in the developer community and the media about
which documents represent the output of chartered groups and which
documents are input to W3C Activities (Member Submissions
<http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/submission.html#Submission>
and Team
Submissions
<http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/organization.html#TeamSubmission>),
W3C has stopped using the unqualified maturity level "Note."

Kind regards,

Willem-Siebe Spoelstra

E-mail: info@spoelstra.ws
Blog: spoelstra.ws



2014-07-20 2:08 GMT+02:00 John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>:

> Hi Willem,
>
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> Others may respond publicly, and contradict me - if so they may know
> better.  However, my understanding is that a Group Note indicates that work
> started, got as far as "xx" and then stopped, for whatever reason, and
> never made it to Recommendation. It is (I believe) a working draft that has
> stalled or stopped, and that the group believes it will not resume.
>
>
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> The "note" is retained primarily for legacy and research reasons.
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> In the case of microdata, from within the HTML5 Working Group, as I
> recall, most participants felt that because Schema.org, and the major
> consumers of metadata like that (Google, Bing, et al) were more interested
> in the schema.org protocol, that continued work on microdata was - if not
> pointless, of little value. Only Yandex (at the time) was interested in
> moving forward with microdata, but an editor to continue the work could not
> be found. So microdata is now "sitting on a shelf", never "finished" but of
> some historical value.
>
>
>
> Thus it is now a "Working Group Note".
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> (Note: AFAIK, there is also another kind of Note at the W3C - a document
> that is informative but will never be normative. For example this
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/media-accessibility-reqs/ will ultimately be
> published as a formal Note, as it is undergoing a formal review, but will
> never be normative in the traditional sense of that word)
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> Make sense?
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> Cheers!
>
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>
> JF
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> *From:* wsspoelstra@gmail.com [mailto:wsspoelstra@gmail.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Willem-Siebe Spoelstra
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:47 PM
> *To:* W3C Public HTML
> *Subject:* What is (the status of) a 'Group note'
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm confused! I trie to understand the meaning and status of the technical
> rapport found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/.  Reading this helped me a lot
> to understand the levels:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#maturity-levels.
>
>
>
> But I'm still confused about the levels for a 'Group note'. It tells me:
>
>
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> *The maturity levels "Working Draft" and "Working Group Note" represent
> the possible initial states of a technical report in the development
> process. The maturity levels "Recommendation," "Working Group Note," and
> "Rescinded Recommendation" represent the possible end states.*
>
>
> So the maturity level 'Working Group Note' is indicating a initial state
> and the end state. Can somebody explain me that?
>
>
>
> And what is exactly 'Group note'? I read:
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> *A Working Group Note is published by a chartered Working Group to
> indicate that work has ended on a particular topic*
>
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>
> Let's take the 'Group note' about HTML Microdata >
> http://www.w3.org/TR/microdata/. Why is this a 'Group note' and not a
> 'Recommendatio'n?
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> Vriendelijke groet,
>
>
>
> Willem-Siebe Spoelstra
>
>
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> E-mail: info@spoelstra.ws
>
> Blog: spoelstra.ws
>
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