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Re: ISSUE-155 counter proposal

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:33:06 -0400
Message-ID: <4D8A20C2.5000305@intertwingly.net>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
CC: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html@w3.org
On 03/23/2011 12:00 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Leif Halvard Silli
> <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>  wrote:
>> Tab Atkins Jr., Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:25:13 -0700:
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Leif Halvard Silli
>>> <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>  wrote:
>>>> Ian Hickson, Wed, 23 Mar 2011 04:06:47 +0000 (UTC):
>>>>   [...]
>>>>
>>>>> RATIONALE
>>>>   [...]
>>>>> Non-CSS UAs [ snip ] can already draw table
>>>>> borders on tables, so adding a presentational attribute for this purpose
>>>>> adds nothing for them. [...]
>>>>
>>>> What use is there in having non-CSS UAs that are able to draw borders,
>>>> if authors aren't allowed to use the very HTML feature that triggers
>>>> them to actually draw them?
>>>>
>>>> Non-CSS UAS do not draw a single border unless one sets the border
>>>> attribute to a non-zero value. The default styling of tables, is to not
>>>> display the border.
>>>
>>> The point is that non-CSS UAs can (and, apparently, *should*)
>>
>> Were is the "apparently" coming from?
>
> It seems apparent that non-CSS UAs should display a border on tables
> automatically.

Any chance that the ISSUE-155 counter proposal could get updated to 
propose a change to the draft specification mention this explicitly?  If 
not, would anybody be willing to propose a separate change proposal that 
does this?

- Sam Ruby
Received on Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:33:42 GMT

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