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Re: SURVEY: Accept requirement for immediate mode graphics a la canvas element?

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:16:04 -0500
Message-ID: <47503744.1090003@us.ibm.com>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
CC: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>

Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:02:55 +0100, Dr. Olaf Hoffmann 
> <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de> wrote:
>> I think, this part of the working draft would be more convincing, if 
>> there was an element like animation (as in SMIL, SVG Tiny 1.2 or 
>> vector or however one might call it) to reference vector graphics too 
>> (optionally with server-sided
>> generation to avoid user-sided scripting) - either as an external file
>> similar to audio or video or to embed it in a mixed document XHTML+SVG
>> as a clear separation...
> 
> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-declarative.html 
> marks 2D vector graphics and animation out of scope because it is 
> already adequately addressed by SVG which can be embedded in XHTML.

For various reasons, many members of this working group (correctly, 
IMHO) believe that XHTML is a non-starter for most people.

> Embedding SVG (and MathML for instance) in HTML is an area I and others 
> have been looking into during the TPAC (and also on this mailing list, 
> on weblogs, etc.), but we don't have a good enough proposal yet or 
> implementation experience for that matter to show that it could actually 
> work.

Some prior work in this area, some may be dead ends, others may pan out:

http://intertwingly.net/blog/2006/12/05/HOWTO-Embed-MathML-and-SVG-into-HTML4
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2006/12/18/application-xhtml
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2007/05/04/Inline-SVG-in-MSIE
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2007/09/11/SVG-on-IE-via-Silverlight-Revisited
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2007/10/18/SVG-in-HTML-Momentum-Building

- Sam Ruby
Received on Friday, 30 November 2007 16:16:38 GMT

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