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Re: some thoughts on objections to publishing ""HTML 5 differences from HTML 4"

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:26:17 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80706292226r1d02bf4n11d1759466bb302b@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>

>That seems like way too much attention to a single open issue in the spec.

1. it is not only one, but a number of open issues.
2. the style attribute issue is mentioned explictly, so why not the
the headers, longdesc and summary?
3. the suggested extra text for "3.6. Dropped Attributes" is a generic
statement that includes my particular area of concern.

>I think you should
> focus your energy on helping with the research and analysis to
> address this area in the spec, not the diffs document.

I have been and continue to do this. If the differences document is of
minor importance, then it should not be an issue to amend the doc as
per my suggestions.



On 30/06/07, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 29, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Steven Faulkner wrote:
>
> >
> >> Do you think there's a need to go into more detail than that?
> >
> > yes I do, that is why I proposed
> >
> > in "1.1. Open Issues"
> >
> > add to current text
> >
> > "The headers, longdesc and summary attributes."
> >
> >
> > To make it perfectly clear that the dropping or omission or whatever
> > of these attributes is an open issue.
> >
> >
> > Furthermore I was going to propose in my previous email, (that i sent
> > accidently before it was complete.)
> >
> > That a sentence be inserted in 3.6. Dropped Attributes
> >
> > "Note: The decision to drop of some of the attributes in this section
> > is currently being debated by the working group. As a consequence one
> > or more may be allowed in HTML 5"
> >
> > Again to ensure that the disputed status of headers, longdesc and
> > summary attributes is clearly recorded within the document.
>
> That seems like way too much attention to a single open issue in the
> spec. I understand that you care deeply about it, but the differences
> document should be mainly about describing the state of the spec, not
> going into extensive detail about open issues. I think you should
> focus your energy on helping with the research and analysis to
> address this area in the spec, not the diffs document.
>
> I leave it to the editor's best judgment wether it's worth expanding
> on the open issues language.
>
> Regards,
> Maciej
>
>
>
> >
> > On 29/06/07, ciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Steven Faulkner wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> But I don't see any suggested text for the proposed rationale.
> >> >
> >> > The rationale for dropping the headers,longdesc and summary
> >> attributes
> >> > was presumably formulated by the WHAT WG when the decisions to drop
> >> > these attributes was made. I would like to see the rationale
> >> formally
> >> > recorded in the differences document, but if that is not possible,
> >> > then at least I propose that
> >> >
> >> > in "1.1. Open Issues"
> >> > add to current text
> >> > The headers, longdesc and summary attributes.
> >>
> >> These are included in "Details of accessibility and media-
> >> independence features." (The more general description would also
> >> include things like alt, whether there should be a nicer way to make
> >> an image with full markup fallback, etc). Do you think there's a need
> >> to go into more detail than that?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Maciej
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > with regards
> >
> > Steve Faulkner
> > Technical Director - TPG Europe
> > Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
> >
> > www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
> >
>
>


-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
Received on Saturday, 30 June 2007 05:26:22 UTC

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