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Re: Choosing name for XML serialization (Was: Re: HTML5 differences from HTML4 editor's draft (XHTML5 and XHTML2))

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:47:05 +0000 (UTC)
To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706252345530.14519@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Jeff Schiller wrote:
> > >
> > >    <aside>You don't hear "keen" alot these days, do you?</aside>
> > >
> > > All browsers at the moment will render the contents of the <aside> 
> > > element as default styling of a paragraph, I guess.
> > 
> > Actually IE won't even do that, sadly (IE treats all unknown element 
> > start and end tags as empty elements). In Mozilla, the above works for 
> > elements that only contain inline content (so it'd work for the 
> > <aside> but not the <section>). In Safari and Opera it works fine.
> Actually, things seemed to work for me in both IE6 and Mozilla.  The 
> only thing that did not work was when I added the aside's style - IE 
> refused to style it properly (but still displayed its contents).

Right, that's what I was referring to.

> > It's actually likely that we won't introduce default styling for many 
> > of these elements, for exactly this reason.
> Ian, who is the "we" in this sentence.  Surely the default styling would 
> be up to the browser vendors and not the specification writers...

By request from browser vendors, HTML5 will include a set of 
recommendations for default styling. It'll be a MAY at most.

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