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Re: dropping longdesc attribute

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:09:23 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80706230509y9243b8bke3c817e613d98aae@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, "Denis Boudreau (WebConforme)" <dboudreau@webconforme.com>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
>Feel free to catch me (Hixie) on IRC when
>I'm at work and if I have the data I can provide it.

thanks Ian, will do

>http://code.google.com/webstats/index.html
>...but it's long overdue for an update. I'll see what I can do.

please do

>relying on just one set of proprietary numbers that have
>been sanitised for public consumption is certainly better than nothing but
>it's a far cry from ideal.

agreed, especially when the sanitised version does not contain
data about the attribute in question.

On 23/06/07, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Steven Faulkner wrote:
> >
> > Why is it that you have access to data ((Source: Unpublished Google
> > internal survey of several billion pages conducted in September 2006.)
> > from an unpublished survey that you can quote seletively to back up your
> > arguments against the inclusion of accessibility related attributes, but
> > other members of the group who are trying to argue for their continued
> > inclusion cannot draw on and interpret the same data for the benefit of
> > thier arguments?
>
> He asked me for the data on IRC. Feel free to catch me (Hixie) on IRC when
> I'm at work and if I have the data I can provide it.




> Why not provide access to the data to all members of the working group
> > rather than pulling out selective results to benefit a particular
> > argument?
>
> For commercial reasons, I can't publish the raw data. Some of the
> sanitised data from earlier studies is at:
>
>    http://code.google.com/webstats/index.html
>
> ...but it's long overdue for an update. I'll see what I can do. It would
> be cool if other members of the group with similar resources could publish
> similar studies; relying on just one set of proprietary numbers that have
> been sanitised for public consumption is certainly better than nothing but
> it's a far cry from ideal.
>
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-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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Received on Saturday, 23 June 2007 12:09:29 UTC

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