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Re: dropping longdesc attribute

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 08:58:13 +0000 (UTC)
To: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, "Denis Boudreau (WebConforme)" <dboudreau@webconforme.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706230853580.14519@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Steven Faulkner wrote:
> Why is it that you have access to data ((Source: Unpublished Google 
> internal survey of several billion pages conducted in September 2006.) 
> from an unpublished survey that you can quote seletively to back up your 
> arguments against the inclusion of accessibility related attributes, but 
> other members of the group who are trying to argue for their continued 
> inclusion cannot draw on and interpret the same data for the benefit of 
> thier arguments?

He asked me for the data on IRC. Feel free to catch me (Hixie) on IRC when 
I'm at work and if I have the data I can provide it.

> Why not provide access to the data to all members of the working group 
> rather than pulling out selective results to benefit a particular 
> argument?

For commercial reasons, I can't publish the raw data. Some of the 
sanitised data from earlier studies is at:


...but it's long overdue for an update. I'll see what I can do. It would 
be cool if other members of the group with similar resources could publish 
similar studies; relying on just one set of proprietary numbers that have 
been sanitised for public consumption is certainly better than nothing but 
it's a far cry from ideal.

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