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Re: mixed signals on "Writing HTML documents", tutorial, etc.

From: Maurice Carey <maurice@thymeonline.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:47:02 -0400
To: HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C29C2F46.2CA4%maurice@thymeonline.com>

I'm probably not enough of a qualified expert to review this properly but
I'm sure in the future it will be my job to convince new people to actually
sit down and read some of this stuff so here are my thoughts on

html Optional tags
Certain tags can be omitted.

Wouldn't it be better to say that implementers (browsers) are required to
support documents under circumstances where certain tags were omitted but
authors must strive for proper valid markup....or is the official position
of the working group that there's nothing wrong with omitting html, head,
and body tags in an html5 document?

If not, and if this page is for authors and not implementers, should this
section even be on this page?

8.1.4. Character entity references
Show examples of each

> Comments must start with the four character sequence U+003C LESS-THAN SIGN,

How about:
Comments must start with the four character sequence <!--.

And the <!-- part can be in a span with the title attribute

....but for longer ones this would be useless since most browsers don't show
the tool tip long enough and also don't break things into easier to read
multiple lines :(

Is there anything in html5 that addresses that problem?

On 6/14/07 3:39 PM, "Geoffrey Sneddon" <foolistbar@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 14 Jun 2007, at 19:42, Dan Connolly wrote:
>> I'm getting mixed signals. The tasks survey
>> shows 42 people interested in tutorial development,
>> but I'm struggling to get any tangible progress in that
>> direction.
> I feel there's little point in starting until after the spec has been
> reviewed, which is why I've not done anything yet.
>> And now when I look at the volunteers to review sections
>> of the HTML 5 spec, there's noticeable lack of reviewers
>> for the "Writing HTML documents" documents section.
> Maybe this shows people feel this shouldn't be in the spec, even
> informatively (but that should really be another thread)?
> - Geoffrey Sneddon

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