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Re: IE's AND EVERYONE ELSE'S object implementation problems (was RE: Baby Steps or Backwards Steps?)

From: Robert Burns <rob@robburns.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:21:04 -0500
Message-Id: <19B3D2F8-FF2A-4B6A-BD28-0C65142C7C95@robburns.com>
Cc: "HTML Working Group" <public-html@w3.org>
To: Michael A.Puls II <shadow2531@gmail.com>


On Aug 21, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Michael A. Puls II wrote:

> On 8/21/07, Robert Burns <rob@robburns.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2007, at 6:43 PM, Michael A. Puls II wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/21/07, L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday 2007-08-21 09:08 -0500, Robert Burns wrote:
>>>>>   Mozilla (2.0.0.6): Still images work fine: both small and  
>>>>> large.
>>>>> Time-based media does not load except for the audio track, which
>>>>> plays automatically on load.
>>>>
>>>> Object handling has been significantly rewritten on the trunk.  Try
>>>> the latest Gran Paradiso alpha if you want to get a sense of  
>>>> current
>>>> Mozilla behavior:
>>>>   http://www.mozilla.org/projects/granparadiso/
>>>
>>> Yes. As in example:
>>>
>>> <object type="application/x-mplayer2" data="image.gif" width="300"
>>> height="300"></object>
>>>
>>> FF2 would load the wmp plugin and have the wmp embed the image,  
>>> where
>>> as in FF3 (and Opera), the type is ignored and the server type is
>>> honored.
>>
>> But how do these latest versions work with the example I posted?  
>> [1][2]
>
> Works fine except that FF doesn't have default width and height styles
> for plugins, so if you don't specify the dimensions, you can't see
> them.
>
> FWIW, I like how Opera does goes with  a default width and height if
> they're not specified.

No, I don't think Opera or iCab are going with a default width and  
height. It looks to me like their extracting the intrinsic dimensions  
of the media and using that. That to me is what the behavior should  
be for all browsers.

Here's a new version of the pate with height and width set.

<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2007Aug/att-0035/ 
TestObjecttWMeasurments.html>

Now with this extra bit of information, I'm seeing all browsers  
handle it appropriately except Safari which doesn't load any of the  
audio or video.

Take care,
Rob
Received on Wednesday, 22 August 2007 01:21:47 UTC

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