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RE: Ruby in HTML

From: Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:37:08 -0700
To: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
CC: Richard Ishida <rishida@w3.org>, Michel Suignard <michelsu@windows.microsoft.com>, "piro@p.club.ne.jp" <piro@p.club.ne.jp>
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Yes, Michel did most of the design work IIRC.  I was the program manager in there somewhere, so I have some familiarity too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Dubost [mailto:karl@w3.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:53 PM
To: HTML WG
Cc: Richard Ishida; Michel Suignard; Chris Wilson; piro@p.club.ne.jp
Subject: Re: Ruby in HTML

Le 2 août 2007 à 19:52, Anne van Kesteren a écrit :
> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:29:32 +0200, Jason White
> <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:
>> [...] including the relationship between HTML 5 and W3C work on Ruby
>> annotation?
>
> I believe the plan is to eventually integrate Ruby support. As far
> as I can tell there are at least two open issues with that currently:


* I18N
Richard Ishida,
Do you have input on how to achieve Ruby in HTML?
I have not cc: i18n to avoid too many cross-postings and lost threads

* Internet Explorer
Chris Wilson,
Do you know who was/is in charge of Ruby implementation in Internet
Explorer?
Michel Suignard maybe?
His/her feedback would be welcome for having a better specification.

* Mozilla
SHIMODA-san, do you still work on Ruby for Mozilla, do you have any
information with regards a possible implementation of ruby in HTML 5.
XHTML Ruby Support
http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_rubysupport.html.en

* What about Opera, Safari, NetFront, etc. and others?



Here an example of a site which takes a page
and gives the hiragana, romaji spelling of the characters in brackets.
http://yomoyomo.jp/?yyparam=00000101&l=&t=http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/



Issues by Anne.
>  1. Detailed processing requirements for user agents such as
>     what should happen when elements are incorrectly nested, etc.
>     and what that implies for tools extracting semantics.
>
>  2. Integrating it in the HTML parser in a way that is
>     compatible with the subset of Ruby that Internet Explorer
>     supports.
>
> Of those two, the main problem is probably number 2. Maybe there is
> also an issue describing the exact semantics of ruby elements, I
> haven't checked the ruby specification in a while...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_character
http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby

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