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Re: The argument for |bugmode| (was Re: If we have versioning, it should be in an attribute, not the doctype)

From: Dão Gottwald <dao@design-noir.de>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:31:46 +0200
Message-ID: <46277D52.90403@design-noir.de>
To: Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo <amla70@gmail.com>
CC: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, public-html@w3.org

Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo schrieb:
> 
> 2007/4/19, Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>:
>>
>> It would really help if you would actually do some research about (or
>> at least listen to) what authors actually want, instead of being
>> presumptuous.  There have been many web developers, including myself,
>> saying (both on and off list) that they want an always-standards mode
>> option.  Every single one that I have discussed this issue with off
>> list strongly objects to your plan to perpetuate every bug you ever
>> release and require explicit opt ins for nearly every new browser
>> version.  I will try to get feedback from many more developers
>> concerning this issue and make it available to you as evidence for my
>> arguments.
> 
> I think that Chris has enough evidence about how much web authors know
> what they want when they set their pages to standars mode and blamed
> MS for the bug fixes of IE7.
> 
> Let's analyze the situation:
> You've built a web page, it's rendered correctly and works properly in
> all the current browsers.
> IE.next is released with a new standards mode, there are some 
> possibilities:
> 
> 1.Your page did relied on a bug and it's fixed in the new IE.
> 1.a If the opt-in is automatic for every new release then your page
> now is broken and you must check and fix it.
> 1.b If you must set the opt-in for the new standards mode then your
> page will remain fine until you add the opt-in and fix the problems.

1.c We have _one_ more opt-in, namely <!DOCTYPE html>, and MS doesn't 
officially support it until the standards compliance is reasonable.

--Dao
Received on Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:31:53 UTC

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