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Re: A Compromise to the Versioning Debate

From: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:59:57 +1000
To: "Roger Johansson" <roger@456bereastreet.com>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.tqytl7s164w2qv@id-c0020>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:38:35 +1000, Roger Johansson  
<roger@456bereastreet.com> wrote:
> On 16 apr 2007, at 07.31, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
>
>> That's not weird. We're all human and make mistakes.
>
> Yes, of course. But if nothing tells us when we make mistakes, we can't  
> learn from them (which is why I think browsers somehow warning about  
> errors is a very good idea).

They do. There's an error console. We can't show errors in the UI. End  
users don't care about that.


>> The design has to take imperfection into account. This means  
>> imperfection in the implementation, the generated HTML (whether by hand  
>> or tool), even the specification, etc.
>
> To some extent, yes.
>
>> Even skillful web developers rely on error handling as can be seen by  
>> the broken tools (no tool is perfect) they sometimes have to work with.  
>> See the following blog entry for instance (I'm surprised Roger  
>> Johansson +100 this thread for whatever reason):
>
> I've been thinking about this for a long time now, and I can't  
> understand why you are surprised by that. Maybe I am misunderstanding  
> you?

Your blog entry indicates that even skilfull developers have issues now  
and then. So I'm not sure why we should not take that into account.


>> The web is also not solely for skillful web developers
>
> No, but it is my firm (as in Microsoft wants an opt-in switch firm)  
> belief that people who build websites, who develop tools that are used  
> to build websites, and who develop tools that are used to produce  
> content for websites for a living, all have a responsibility to keep  
> up-to-date with current best practices.

Sure, that doesn't mean they won't screw up.


-- 
Anne van Kesteren
<http://annevankesteren.nl/>
<http://www.opera.com/>
Received on Wednesday, 18 April 2007 06:00:44 UTC

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