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Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:32:53 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VkhaE0Ge-rDU9gVarhdqxtZXn1z0bZ6-gedzBBf7j3XRw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Philippe Le Hégar et <plh@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Paul,

I will make the edit as requested.


regards

Steve

On 5 February 2013 19:12, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  > This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the
> document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something
> that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.
>
> ****
>
> As a general principle Editors should not make technical changes to a
> document AFTER a CfC to publish the Working Draft without explicitly asking
> the WG for further approval.   ****
>
> ** **
>
> And in this the case the WAI-ARIA in HTML specification actually refers to
> the HTML 5.0 CR draft in its references and therefore slipping in a HTML
> 5.1 is not appropriate.****
>
> ** **
>
> Therefore I recommend that you withdraw the “main” changes from this FPWD
> before it is published.****
>
> ** **
>
> /paulc****
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada****
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3****
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> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:52 AM
>
> *To:* Paul Cotton
> *Cc:* Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le
> Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
> *Subject:* Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi paul,
>
> > Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section
> 2.10 Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?
>
> that predates the CFC
>
> >One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not
> appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed “main” HTML
> >element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this
> document?
>
> This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the
> document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something
> that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.
>
> regards
> SteveF****
>
> On 5 February 2013 15:51, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> > the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft,
> but did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the
> working draft copy.****
>
> Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section 2.10
> Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?****
>
>  ****
>
> One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not
> appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed “main” HTML
> element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this
> document?****
>
>  ****
>
> /paulc****
>
>  ****
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada****
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3****
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:48 AM
> *To:* Paul Cotton
> *Cc:* Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le
> Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force***
> *
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>
>  ****
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> the changes to the recommendations table are editorial corrections.
>
> the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft, but
> did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the
> working draft copy.
>
> regards
> steve****
>
> On 5 February 2013 03:44, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> The diff you provided shows changes in Section 2.9 Using aria-hidden and
> in several places in the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table that do not
> appear in your list of editorial changes.  Can you also explain these
> changes?
>
> /paulc****
>
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329****
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Brewer [mailto:jbrewer@w3.org]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:26 PM
> To: Steve Faulkner; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility
> Task Force
> Cc: Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; Michael
> Smith
> Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>
> Here is a full summary of editorial changes in one place that have been
> made since the calls for consensus for publication with both PFWG and HTML
> WG:
>
>    - updated title to match WAI-ARIA spec name
>    - updated copyright date
>    - expanded description of the doc in the Abstract
>    - clarified relation to HTML Accessibility TF and PFWG in the Status
>    - added an Introduction to the document.
>
> Based on dates of the mercurial file versions and dates of the CfCs, it
> looks like the diff showing all changes between the document version that
> the Task Force and both Working Groups reviewed, till now, (not just these
> last edits) would be this one:
>
>    <
> http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2F4aa58eed6108%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2Fe5d93aef7530%2Findex.html
> >
>
> The edits earlier today were to match changes that had already been
> requested.
>
> My understanding is that, per prior WG & TF coordination discussion,
> unless any comments are received on these changes after a 48-hour FYI to
> the TF and the 2 WGs, then the document should be ready for publication at
> that point.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Judy
>
>
> At 03:22 PM 2/4/2013 +0000, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> >after discussion with Judy and Janina I have made a few further
> >editorial changes:
> >
> >    * modified abstract text
> >    * modified boilerplate to clarify the document origin.
> >changeset:
> ><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530>https://dvcs.w
> >3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530
> >
> >regards
> >SteveF
> >
> >
> >On 2 February 2013 16:16, Steve Faulkner
> ><<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I believe that the Using WAI-ARIA in HTML spec is ready for publication
> >the draft
> ><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html>https:/
> >/dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html
> >
> >the minor changes requested have been made:
> >additon of text to the abstract:
> >changing of document title to "WAI-ARIA in HTML"
> >correcting of the boiler plate text has been done by Mike Smith
> >(thanks). He is also handling the publication to the appropriate URLs.
> >--
> >with regards
> >Steve Faulkner
> >Technical Director - TPG
> >
>
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